Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread mch
The same shape as when I started. I don't use cheap connectors. Joe M. Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > > What shape is the melted dielectric in after you get finished with the heat > to solder the copper jacket of the hardline to the adapter? > > When the center conductor moved when the dielectri

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Neil McKie
The first UHF Mobile GE started with was the MC306/MC316 ... somewhat similar to the Motorola T44 Series; one difference, GE used a BNC antenna connector. Seeing as how many installers seemed to have a problem installing the BNC connector on the antenna feed line, the next generati

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Coy Hilton
YES! MY PLAN IS NOT TO MESS WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS. OH! THE RCA PHONO CONNECTORS AREN'T EXACTLY 50 OHMS EITHER BUT THEY WORK QUITE WELL! 73 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Tedd Doda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:00:36 -0400, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 10:26 PM 4/5/2005, Coy Hilton wrote: >The selections are now: >Good >Cheap >Fast >"you can only have two" Engineering IS the art of compromise. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe fr

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Coy Hilton
The selections are now: Good Cheap Fast "you can only have two" --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PL-259 is not a connector anyone that is serious about communications > would use. The connector is not waterproof, it is not constant

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread Mr John Lloyd
Message: 24 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:12:14 - From: "w9mwq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost > Ok, I'm sure these duplexers are tuned correctly, but > here is what is happening. If I inject 1.5 watts> into the transmit side of this d

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Coy Hilton
I agree with Kevin. Tha same could be said for the RCA (phono) connectors. GE used them in many radios including MASTRIIs up through UHF. They worked well. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > > >The PL-259 is not a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for feed line

2005-04-05 Thread NØATH
Hello Will - I have whatever connectors you need for the feedline either size and I think Skipp had a trainload of hardline. NØATH / Dave - Original Message - From: "n2odw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking for feed line

Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for feed line

2005-04-05 Thread Dave VanHorn
At 09:04 PM 4/5/2005, n2odw wrote: >Helllo to the group > >I understand that heliax 7/8 or 1/2 inch is the best transmission line >to add while putting a reapeater system togather. With that >information in mind I am also looking to purchase about 100ft. with >connecters to finish the project.

[Repeater-Builder] looking for feed line

2005-04-05 Thread n2odw
Helllo to the group I understand that heliax 7/8 or 1/2 inch is the best transmission line to add while putting a reapeater system togather. With that information in mind I am also looking to purchase about 100ft. with connecters to finish the project. Would anybody out there know of a good d

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Deskset MC1000

2005-04-05 Thread Jesse
Is there anyone out there that would know where to find a user manual for a Motorola MC1000 Dispatch console? I know that I could deal with Motorola, but I'd rather just find somewhere to download it from. Any help would be appreciated! Jesse Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit y

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread greenfin2002
ted are any of the jumpers for sale? pat --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Tedd Doda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:02:13 -0400, Kevin Custer wrote: > > >What I don't want to see is folks going out and cutting off > >all of their UHF conn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Dengler
At 4/5/2005 02:12 PM, you wrote: >Ok, I'm sure these duplexers are tuned correctly, but here is what is >happening. If I inject 1.5 watts into the transmit side of this >duplexer I get about 95% of that back, with about 1.4 watts from the >duplexer. Then I pump 130 watts into the duplexer and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
What shape is the melted dielectric in after you get finished with the heat to solder the copper jacket of the hardline to the adapter? When the center conductor moved when the dielectric melted, the cable impedance also changed. When you melted the foam dielectric, you also changed the veloci

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "nj902" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "...You can get a document from Tx-Rx, TECH-AID No. 93001, titled "Measuring Insertion Loss With Wattmeters" ... ___ Here: http://www.txrx.com/products/pdf/gen

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "w9mwq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I'm sure these duplexers are tuned correctly, but here is what is happening. If I inject 1.5 watts into the transmit side of this duplexer I get about 95% of that back, with about 1.4 watts from the duplexer. Then I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread mch
Well, I've had fewer problems with my cheap, adapted connector than other types specifically MADE FOR hardline! You go with what works, right? Using the UG-176 allows me to solder completely around the shield - making one heck of a good connection. Actually, it's nothing adapted to the hardline -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Joe
I was talking about true hardline connectors, not something adapted to use on hardline. Using quality hardline, then putting a cheap connector, is not what I thought your were going to do. Joe mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = It IS? I use PL-259s on 1/4" Heliax (The UG-176

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
That makes sense to me. Obviously the easiest for you is to just swap out with a regular N chassis and re-use the hood. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Tedd Doda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
What is the true impedance of the duplexer?? Was it tuned correctly on a network analyzer, or tuned to pass and reject specified frequencies with a signal generator and detector? Without the correct tools, it is difficult to do the job correctly. Until I saw a network analyzer in use, I though

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B and TS64

2005-04-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
Thank you sir, that took care of it, right back were it should be. Now onto the power issue. Mathew -Original Message- From: Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:08 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Issue again! I'm confussed or Lost

2005-04-05 Thread w9mwq
Ok, I'm sure these duplexers are tuned correctly, but here is what is happening. If I inject 1.5 watts into the transmit side of this duplexer I get about 95% of that back, with about 1.4 watts from the duplexer. Then I pump 130 watts into the duplexer and only get 60 watts back. Why such

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B and TS64

2005-04-05 Thread Q
Turn up the transmitter audio pot,turn down the CAT tx level till its happy. Mathew Quaife wrote: >I oops'ed on that one, my figures are wrong, tis what I get for not looking. >Anyways, take that down to .008 and .13. Yes, it's about a 1/3 of what it >used to be, and so long as the user of the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B and TS64

2005-04-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
I oops'ed on that one, my figures are wrong, tis what I get for not looking. Anyways, take that down to .008 and .13. Yes, it's about a 1/3 of what it used to be, and so long as the user of the system has a mild to soft spoken audio it works just fine, but if they hit beyond 3.2 Khz deviation it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Tedd Doda
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:02:13 -0400, Kevin Custer wrote: >What I don't want to see is folks going out and cutting off >all of their UHF connectors and replace them with something else. This is due to the fact that I use 1/2" SuperFlex as jumpers, and each end has an N male on it. I really would

[Repeater-Builder] Midland amp

2005-04-05 Thread Dave VanHorn
A friend donated a mobile amp to the cause here, a 60W midland that I think might do well turned down to say 20W or thereabouts. Before I dive into it though, does anyone have technical data on it? Midland 70-4808 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland LMR

2005-04-05 Thread vmckever
OK Guys and Girls, I got from KC0FWN (who has the book) The 70-0520CWB is a 320 channel SynTech II 55-110 Watts, 37-48 Mhz with max freq separation of 11 Mhz. Vincent N6OA/2 Stamford, NY - Original Message - From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:20 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread mch
I believe you could call that 'the equipment was designed for it'. The same probably applies to all equipment with SO-239s - especially quality equipment. Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: > > The impedance bump must have > been providing some situation that made it work better at the notch. Ya

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B and TS64

2005-04-05 Thread Gary Laforce
PL tone should be run at or around .55 to .7 KC anyway sounds like its working fine to me at 1.3KC you can hear the PL tone. Adjust to .65 KC and call it good Gary LaForce Chariton Valley TriStar Communications Columbia Service Department Supervisor 573.441.2224 Direct Shop line 573.442.1147 Mai

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 19C320215G2

2005-04-05 Thread Jim B.
John J. Riddell wrote: > Hall Electronis says that it's UHF > > 19C320208G6 PB SWITCH ASM N/A 1 19C320209G1 MOD KIT ALERT TONE N/A 1 > 19C320215G1 UHS PRE AMP N/A 1 19C320215G2 UHS PREAMP N/A 1 > 19C320219G1 TOP HOUSING ... 73 John VE3AMZ You do know that UHS in this case means 'ultra high sens

[Repeater-Builder] Pl Audio from a Cat1000B and TS64

2005-04-05 Thread w9mwq
Can anyone tell me, I am using a TS-64 tone board wired directly into the cat1000B controller, and for some reason the output of the tone is very weak, and that is with the pot turned all the way up. It is less than .800 KC and used to be about 1.3 before I changed the frequency of the repea

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland LMR

2005-04-05 Thread Jim B.
Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote: > Is it an -052"0" or -052"C" ??? > > A 70-052 "C" is low-band, high-split (50-54 MHz) and CWB is wideband. > Not sure about 70-0520. Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy > Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer Counties Red Cross ECRV Driver/Opera

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
I'm have to agree with Kevin about not changing things the big companies has been doing for years. Manufacturing wise, there is little difference in the cost of the UHF and the "N" connector, trust me I know this for a fact, as I have a friend who is directly connected to a manufacturing plant fo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF connectors.

2005-04-05 Thread Kevin Custer
Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: >The PL-259 is not a connector anyone that is serious about communications >would use. The connector is not waterproof, it is not constant impedance, >it is just a very poor choice for a connector. > I have to disagree about the part of anyone serious about communica

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread mch
Well, when the equipment has a SO-239, I tend to use a PL-259 to connect to it. I guess I'm 'funny' that way. Joe M. Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > > The PL-259 is not a connector anyone that is serious about communications > would use. The connector is not waterproof, it is not constant impedanc

PL259 connectors (was Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50)

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Dengler
At 4/5/2005 09:04 AM, you wrote: >I don't see any reason why you couldn't swap them out with a type N chassis >mount. They have type N crimp chassis mount which eliminates the need for a >hood altogether. > >However, I've never worried about it much. PL259/SO239's have been in >service for so lon

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPN1151A Power Supply

2005-04-05 Thread Neil McKie
9.6 VDC @ 2A Max 13.6 VDC @ 3.5 A Max 14.6 VDC @ 23 Amps hwingate wrote: > > I recently got an old Micor station with this power supply. Does > anyone know the current rating of this supply? Pssst, see above ... > It appears to have the two M9698 pass transistors mounted on an > e

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 406-420 MHz.ANTENNA SURPLUS

2005-04-05 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:53 AM 4/5/05, you wrote: >I have a surpluse [80+] of Motorola # TDE7230A made by Decibel >Products, mod# DB404[406-420MHz.] > >All antennas are new in box with test spec sheet,including N male >termination and mounting hardware. > >These antennas list for $343 each. Reasonable offers consid

[Repeater-Builder] TPN1151A Power Supply

2005-04-05 Thread hwingate
I recently got an old Micor station with this power supply. Does anyone know the current rating of this supply? It appears to have the two M9698 pass transistors mounted on an external heat sink instead of the chassis mounted casting. Was this a Motorola mod or a mod from some tech who got tired

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I don't see any reason why you couldn't swap them out with a type N chassis mount. They have type N crimp chassis mount which eliminates the need for a hood altogether. However, I've never worried about it much. PL259/SO239's have been in service for so long now on UHF commercial equipment, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Changing out SO-239's

2005-04-05 Thread Shanon Herron
Ted,   I was able to change out the SO-239's in my ICOM repeaters with a standard pannel mount N connector.  The hole pattern matches perfectly.  But on the two with just coax attached I used bulkhead females with clamp/solder type.  I also used RG-142 coax from this connector back to the excit

[Repeater-Builder] 406-420 MHz.ANTENNA SURPLUS

2005-04-05 Thread horsmanmichael
I have a surpluse [80+] of Motorola # TDE7230A made by Decibel Products, mod# DB404[406-420MHz.] All antennas are new in box with test spec sheet,including N male termination and mounting hardware. These antennas list for $343 each. Reasonable offers considered. Referrals to interested partie

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread rogeradio
I cut the SO-239's off, reused the hood and replaced them with 'N' Panel Receptacle (UG-58/U) for UHF M2 rptr.  So far so good!   Roger Hansen, W6TOZ   -Original Message-From: Tedd Doda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:02:00 -0400 (EDT)Sub

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Paul Finch
Only problem is it 33 to 39 ohms, not a good 50 ohm connector. Paul -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50 It IS? I use PL-259s on 1/4" Hel

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Tedd Doda
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:00:36 -0400, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: >it is just a very poor choice for a connector. Has anyone come up with a plan to replace the SO-239 hooded chassis mounts on the Mastr II repeaters? We've got 5 in service, both VHF and UHF, and all use the dreaded SO-239 for both R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The PL-259 is not a connector anyone that is serious about communications would use. The connector is not waterproof, it is not constant impedance, it is just a very poor choice for a connector. At my last job there was a sign. It stated: You can get it: 1. quickly. 2. inexpensively 3. with qu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread mch
It IS? I use PL-259s on 1/4" Heliax (The UG-176 adapter fits perfect - that's the one made for RG-59). I always thought the PL259 was one of the most plentiful (and cheapest) connectors there was. Joe M. Joe wrote: > > Any special reason why you would want to? LDF4-50A is the most common and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread Joe
Any special reason why you would want to? LDF4-50A is the most common and easiest to find connectors for. LDF4-50A also has half the loss and would be more durable. The LDF1-50 might be good for jumpers with small turning radiuses. Joe dy3lmk143_13mhz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread mch
For short runs, yes. (less than 10-20 feet or so) Joe M. dy3lmk143_13mhz wrote: > > Can I use this type of cable in 2M? > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsub

[Repeater-Builder] Andrew Heliax LDF1-50

2005-04-05 Thread dy3lmk143_13mhz
Can I use this type of cable in 2M? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://do

[Repeater-Builder] 73 Amateur Radio Today November 1987

2005-04-05 Thread dy3lmk143_13mhz
Anyone who still keeps their 73 Amateur Radio Today November 1987 issue? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yaho