Re: [Repeater-Builder] 23cm repeaters

2007-06-29 Thread Geert Jan de Groot
> Anyone have any good recommendations for 23cm repeaters besides D-Star? > I've read about the Icom RP-1200 and using two TM-541s. Are there other > options that are as good or better? The RBTIP pages have a lot of info on this topic. See http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/1_2gigthoughts.

[Repeater-Builder] WTB Cheap Repeater Controller

2007-06-29 Thread wb0vhb
Looking for a used cheap and simple controller with just COR, hang-timer and time out timer. CWID not needed. Randy

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Att'n: Mike Morris

2007-06-29 Thread Mike Perryman
I concur... Mike is a very knowledgable guy... and a good dude all around. nuff said. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don KA9QJG Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:58 AM To: Repeater-Builder@y

[Repeater-Builder] power supply

2007-06-29 Thread sms mms
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[Repeater-Builder] Lunar & Angle Linear

2007-06-29 Thread skipp025
My impression is/was Lunar was a commercial/amateur product line with multiple persons running the business. Lunar also made some rf power amplifiers. Angle Linear is probably just Chip doing what he seems to do very well... low noise rf preamplifiers. The interesting part of some Lunar Prea

[Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread Don Morehouse
Does anyone know the formula for the cable length between a repeater and the duplexer? Thanks Don VE7EDA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning 11.2 Mhz oscillator on MASTR-II

2007-06-29 Thread jim Hall
Dave, I have some extra IF decks, if this would be some help? Could leave them with MQ the next time I see him. Jim K7OET --- ve7ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some reason, the MASTR-II UHF receiver I have is > missing the slugs > out of the tuning coils in the 11.2Mhz IF > oscillator.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Don, The length of that jumper cable must consider both the length of any cable between the TX output jack and the power amplifier itself, as well as the length of the coupling loop inside of the duplexer cavity. If the output of the PA and the input of the duplexer were purely resistive, the cab

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread mch
The length from the repeater to the duplexer isno critical (or SHOULD not be when properly tuned). Therefore, there is no 'formula' other than you want it as short as possible yet allowing enough flex/extra that it won't get stressed. Joe M. Don Morehouse wrote: > > Does anyone know the formula

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread mch
Sheesh. "isno" should have been "is not". Joe M. mch wrote: > > The length from the repeater to the duplexer isno critical (or SHOULD > not be when properly tuned). Therefore, there is no 'formula' other than > you want it as short as possible yet allowing enough flex/extra that it > won't get s

[Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread cruising7388
Why would the presence or absence of +/- J affect the determination of whether or not the feedline is functioning as an impedance transformer? When the source and load impedances are different, even though purely resistive, won't the connecting cable still act as a line transformer?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Good catch! I should have emphasized that the length of a 50-ohm connecting cable is irrelevant if both the source and load impedances are 50 ohms resistive. That happy coincidence is, of course, unlikely in the real world. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Buil

[Repeater-Builder] Cable formula not required.

2007-06-29 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Roger, Roger, Roger.Steve NU5D mch wrote: > *The length from the repeater to the duplexer is not critical (or SHOULD > not be when properly tuned). Therefore, there is no 'formula' other than > you want it as short as possible yet allowing enough flex/extra that it > won't get stressed.***

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula not required.

2007-06-29 Thread Jim
I'll third that...even though duplexers are typically reactive, if it's right, length of the cables should not be an issue. If it is, I would look at either the duplexer or the antenna/feedline. As always, put a dummy load after the duplexer and see if all is well. If it is, it's an antenna syst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread cruising7388
Eric I don't think the cable cares whether the source and load impedances are 50 ohms resistive. I think the cable is indifferent to whether the load and source values are resistive or whether they present a complex impedance involving+/- J. as long as the composite value looks like 50

[Repeater-Builder] No Cable formula required...

2007-06-29 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Agreed the duplexer most likely will not be pure anything. Seems like Wacom tuned the pass/reject with a sweeper, then looked at return loss. Odd quarter wavelengths of cable would transfer the Z at the duplexer to the antenna, transmitter or receiver, but most PA's are broad banded and could

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bruce, The last sentence of your message says it all, and I completely agree that a Z-matcher is the way to go. The original posting was a request for a simple formula to determine in advance how long the jumpers should be to achieve optimum performance. I think we both agree that there are too

[Repeater-Builder] Return Loss Bridge was Cable Length Formula.

2007-06-29 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
http://www.eagle-1st.com/notes/duplex/body.htm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread IM Ashford
OK so you have a reel of cable and two connectors to make up the jumper between transmitter and duplexer. The duplexer is tuned using 50 ohm test gear and the transmitter has been optimised into a 50 ohm load. Unfortunatley the output impedance of the transmitter is not 50 ohms and a length of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
I saw that line stretcher guy, Ian. He was next to the striped tower paint salesman. 73, Steve NU5D PS - I have used an isolator in place of the TEE on the output of a duplexer. Not very practical there, though, and it sure knocks down the receive if you put it in series with the antenna, else

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cable formula

2007-06-29 Thread cruising7388
A good quality Z-Matcher has isolation caps on the trimmer ports so I don't think the matcher itself is producing any RF radiation. I don't understand your description of the z Matcher as introducing any mismatch. The mismatch is already there as a result of some disparity between the sour

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Retuning 11.2 Mhz oscillator on MASTR-II

2007-06-29 Thread ve7ltd
The number is: PL19C320523G2 Rev A There is no direct hit for it, bit it is a 75Watt UHF mobile, with UHF exciter (non-tripler). The IF oscillator is dead, but I would like to troubleshoot it. The receiver tunes up fine until I get to "pin 7" and I get zero volts. I hooked my HP 8920A to the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Return Loss Bridge was Cable Length Formula.

2007-06-29 Thread DK
Thanks for the link Steve, good info for the return loss bridge, but for basic tuning the write-up is backwards. Should be adjust pass first then notch. Didn't want anybody to strip a notch adjustment trying to get from A to B. :~) Those things are spensive btw. 73 Don W5DK -Original Messa

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Retuning 11.2 MHz oscillator on MASTR-II

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dave, The exact LBI for the 19C320523G2 Rev A board is found here: The Description and Maintenance LBI is found here: If the slugs are so loose that they fall out of the coils, perhaps a previous owner broke the original slugs and substituted some that are smaller. That is really strange th