Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread MCH
How do you define when 'it fails'. That is the real question that has existed for decades. I don't think anyone can answer that. I think it's more of a theoretical 'what if' scenario as to what should happen - a guide to use. Joe M. Dennis Zabawa wrote: OK, here is where it really gets fuzzy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread MCH
Threaded... John Barrett wrote: A repeater is NOT full duplex.. it is not simultaneously processing completely separate audio streams in and out.. it is processing the SAME audio in and out. So because the content in both 'directions' (TX and RX) are the same, that disqualifies it as 'full

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread MCH
Nate Duehr wrote: Nate Duehr wrote: On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Paul Plack wrote: Manufacturers sometimes market features on new radios without regard to Part 97. I have an Alinco DR570T, one of the first, if not THE first, dual-band mobile to feature full duplex crossband

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Full Duplex

2007-11-09 Thread MCH
In fact, this is usually more helpful since it's the offending TX they are looking for. IF you have multiple IDs, how do you know which TX is causing the interference? If each TX ID is unique to that TX, you know which one it is. This is also an issue with multiple repeaters TXing the same

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Full Duplex

2007-11-09 Thread MCH
I've done the same thing (full duplex) on the SAME INPUT FREQUENCY! (with no heterodyne, yet!) I'll let the smart ones think about that for a minute... ... ... Give up? ... One user was TXing FM, and I was TXing SSB. Both audios were quite readable on the repeater. Timing it out was an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Duplexer Recommendations?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott
Hello Eric Good question and I think that my answer is probably not. In my case, or I should say, in the case of our PD duplexers, I inherited both of them (as new lead man) in used condition. My predecessors had successfully used both of them in protected but somewhat damp locations for

Fw: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Duplexer Recommendations?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott
Eric and all others in the woodwork--- Please disregard the 30 watt tuned under power comment at the bottom of my message below--It is wrong and not relevant I meant to remove it and missed it. The desense problems were found initially and the only tuning with power applied was with

[Repeater-Builder] For Sale: 440 TX/RX Duplexer

2007-11-09 Thread Doug Fitts
I have for sale a TX/RX mobile duplexer rated at 50 watts. This is the Vari-Notch type, four cavities and factory tuned to TX 448.450 and RX 443.450. The asking price is $80.00 plus $10.50 U.S. Postal Service Priority Mail shipping. If interested pix of the duplexer can be seen on the PHOTOS link

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread no6b
At 11/8/2007 18:12, you wrote: OK, here is where it really gets fuzzy for me: §97.213 Telecommand of an amateur station. ... (b) Provisions are incorporated to limit transmission by the station to a period of no more than 3 minutes in the event of malfunction in the control link. Does that

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread no6b
At 11/9/2007 07:01, you wrote: Laryn, My only reason for thinking 2.4 G would not be legal for control it did not fall within the Auxiliary frequencies allowed for control or Telecommand. The entire 2.4 GHz amateur band is available for auxiliary stations. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread Keith, KB7M
Remember that this is only required if you do not use automatic control. This is why most repeater owners implement automatic control, and then use telecommand as a backup. Keith On 11/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11/8/2007 18:12, you wrote: OK, here is where it

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Engineering Tx Help Needed

2007-11-09 Thread skipp025
I'm surprised there is not more interest in VHF Engineering Gear here on the Group... but their repeater receivers (modules) were/are kind of crappy so you don't often find them still in service. I've got a snot full of VHF Engineering TX strips around and a number of them still in service.

[Repeater-Builder] Want: CES RM10 aka RM-10 Circuit Diagram - Manual - Money - Beer - Wine

2007-11-09 Thread skipp025
Re: Want: CES RM10 aka RM-10 Circuit Diagram and/or the full Owners Manual What we've got here... is failure to communicate. I hope at least some of you might have noted the 40th Anniversary of the Movie - Cool Hand Luke..? Anyway... what we've got here is a dead RM10 Repeater Maker by

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread Ron Wright
Bob, I think you are kidding, hi. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/09 Fri AM 10:46:08 CST To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control At 11/8/2007 18:12, you wrote: OK, here is

[Repeater-Builder] ifr-1200s interface pcb board broken !

2007-11-09 Thread jerrepotable
hi, I need pcb bord interface for my ifr 1200s. if you have this in stock, let me know, or if you know hou repair this module thanks jacques

[Repeater-Builder] Tait 220 Repeaters

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Stacey
Our group is looking for some good quality 220 repeaters. After contacting the Tait dealer in Canada, I was advised that the 220 repeaters were not available in Canada. Does anyone know of a Tait dealer in the US where I may make inquiries. Thanks in advance. Roger VA7RS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 220 Repeaters

2007-11-09 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 09:36 AM 11/09/07, you wrote: Our group is looking for some good quality 220 repeaters. After contacting the Tait dealer in Canada, I was advised that the 220 repeaters were not available in Canada. Does anyone know of a Tait dealer in the US where I may make inquiries. Thanks in advance.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 220 Repeaters

2007-11-09 Thread Steve Allred
Take a look at DX Radio Systems. Here is a link to their web page and look under RTF series for a better picture. I have one up and running here in Northern California and it performs great. Slide in modules for the exciter (15 watts), receiver, power supply and PA (100 Watts). Very nice unit,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 Repeaters

2007-11-09 Thread whensley11
www.taitworld.com Appears they have units covering 222 MHz. 73, ...Kim - WG8S,_._,___

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread Keith McQueen
This would amount to relinquishing control of the station to an unlicensed individual. This is not like operating 3rd party where you allow another person to communicate using your station. In 3rd party operation you must still remain in control of the station. Keith McQueen 801-224-9460

[Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
One of the repeaters I maintain has been working perfectly for almost a year since its last checkup. It is a 6m repeater that has a link to several other 6m repeaters, and is controlled by an ACC RC-96 controller. It is powered from a very large commercial UPS that ensures no-break power. One

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread Laryn Lohman
Understood. For my question, I was thinking along the lines of using the 2.4G radios as a WiFi user, not as an Amateur user. I just wanted a clarification, because using 2.4G WiFi for a portion of a control link is no different than using a 49 mc. cordless phone, or a 1900 mc. cellphone to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread Paul Plack
...or, if you're calling wifi a ham-band link, how you're ID-ing that sucker! - 73, Paul AE4KR - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ
Eric, Eproms are only good for so long.. One or more is starting to lose it's stored/burned bits. I have not had this happen to an ACC controller but other older eprom devices. The last item had a Eprom about ten years old in it when it started to go crazy... Hope this helps! Bryon KØBSJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread DCFluX
I had a RC-850 with the original EEprom board, lost one of the chips and every other word became 'zero' on an ID. Also power surges on the internal power bus can cause random writes to the eeprom with the results you are describing. On 11/9/07, Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bryon, Thanks for the response. I hadn't thought about EEPROMS having a finite lifetime- but it sounds reasonable. This RC-96 controller has been in service for just over 16 years. I should have mentioned that, once I disconnected the power to the RC-96 and reconnected it about 20 seconds

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Keith McQueen
RAM memory is not 100% especially as it ages. Stray gamma rays can corrupt RAM. It's rare here deep in the atmosphere, but it does happen. Satellites have to use hardened RAM for this reason (or as in the case of the HAM microsats, special software routines that continually watch for and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Richard
I've never heard of Eproms having a finite lifetime, although I will readily admit to not being completely knowledgeable of them. There may be differences in quality, the cheaper ones are simply failing, or maybe the Eprom wasn't burned properly. An Eprom's principal enemy is static electricity.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Richard
I knew it, it's those space aliens! Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith McQueen Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need preamp card for MSR 2000

2007-11-09 Thread George Henry
An MSR-2000 shouldn't be difficult to narrow-band... Communications Specialists sells a kit of narrow crystal filters to fit it. I've already done one Mitrek and a Johnson PPL6060. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control

2007-11-09 Thread George Henry
The way most HSMM stations do - you use your callsign as the SSID of the access point, and have beaconing enabled! - Original Message - From: Paul Plack To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Possible interference on 146.160

2007-11-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bruce, I suspect that there are a couple hundred desktop and laptop computers in that office building, and any one of them can be radiating a carrier or a harmonic thereof that falls on or near your input frequency. A case in point: I was tuning up an GR1225 repeater a while back when I noticed

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Possible interference on 146.160

2007-11-09 Thread Tony VE6MVP
At 10:25 PM 2007-11-09 -0800, you wrote: A case in point: I was tuning up an GR1225 repeater a while back when I noticed that the receive LED was blinking without any sound coming from the speaker. When I disabled the PL decode, I heard a slightly off-frequency carrier that was very weak, but