[Repeater-Builder] Controller order PayPal problems

2010-03-16 Thread Don Kerouac
I have been burned by PayPal several times. The real reason they put the "hold" on your checks or "hold" money owed to you has nothing to do with your ratings and little to do with security. Basically, they control billions of dollars in transactions ever month through EBay. By "holding" the mon

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Yahoo
I had to clean up a site after someone used ¾” copper pipe for the halo. Standard sweat solder connections. Shrapnel everywhere. So what is the electrical properties of ¾” copper pipe after lightning has pierced through it??? J Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-bu

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Davis
Re: Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire Posted by: "Eric Lemmon"

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater /Crossband Help

2010-03-16 Thread burkleoj
Don, I will let Scott or Kevin confirm this but I think you are correct in that often times the transmit channel element is strapped to oscillate all of the time. Nothing wrong in doing this and it is not normally a problem unless you are very close to the repeater (usually within a few feet).

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater /Crossband Help

2010-03-16 Thread Thomas Oliver
Sounds like your channel element is "running all the time" You may need to force jumper your ptt to ground all the time and reconect your controllers ptt to the channel element select line so it only runs when it needs to. Other than that about the only thing you could do is place an attenuator

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Hubbell
I notice you are getting everything but the answer to your question. Please look at this video and then give Joe an email. If he dosn't have the answer he probably can get it. Joes email is kc2...@yahoo.com Dave N2KTO On 3/16/2010 1:33 AM, Russell wrote: Hi, I am building a portable repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater /Crossband Help

2010-03-16 Thread ka9qjg1
Hello hope Everyone is doing well, I have ran into a little Problem and thought I would get some suggestions on how to resolve it I have a Motorola Micor 224.40 repeater built By Scott N3XCC , here on the Repeater builder group; it has worked great for over 3 Yrs. I have a Few Hams in th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-16 Thread Com/Rad Inc
Looks like a 7152 -PC Programmable w/ proper software. Ed Com/Rad Inc - Original Message - From: Doug To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio I have a vhf radio presently on 162mhz made b

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread Rick Szajkowski
> > It's because terrorists are Canadian. > > -- > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR > Disinformation Analyst > > Now thats just not funny > > __,_._,__ >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-16 Thread Doug
At 06:03 PM 16/03/2010, you wrote: >EF Johnson Challenger 7152A? > >VHF 55W > >http://www.repeater-builder.com/johnson/efj-index.html > >http://www.ccdx.org/zedyx/mods/challenger.htm > >On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Doug wrote: > > I have a vhf radio presently on 162mhz made by E.F Johnson. > >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jesse, Not a good idea. Both NFPA 70 (the National Electrical Code) and NFPA 780 (the Lightning Protection Code) have strict requirements for wire sizes and connection methods. Neither grounding systems nor lightning protection systems may use a soldered connection in the circuit. Perhaps your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, John J. Riddell wrote: > Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering > a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no > satisfactory reply...just "stock answers" I then called them to find > out why they sent an E Check for my purc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-16 Thread DCFluX
EF Johnson Challenger 7152A? VHF 55W http://www.repeater-builder.com/johnson/efj-index.html http://www.ccdx.org/zedyx/mods/challenger.htm On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Doug wrote: > I have a vhf radio presently on 162mhz made by E.F Johnson. > It is a small unit, but I can't find a combo. I

[Repeater-Builder] E.F. JOHNSON radio

2010-03-16 Thread Doug
I have a vhf radio presently on 162mhz made by E.F Johnson. It is a small unit, but I can't find a combo. It has a FCC ID ATH90F2427152. The number is very faded and hard to read. Can anyone tell me anything about these. Are the useful for hams and how can they be programmed. Thanks Doug VE5DA

[Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread skipp025
> "briansoehl" wrote: > First of all Thanks Tony and Steve. The radios are rated > at "35W adjustable to 5W" I plan to run them at about 20W, > and they aren't going to exceed about 30 to 40% duty cycle. > So the PAs should be fine. They'd easily be fine at 35 watts, especially at that d

[Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread skipp025
> I absolutely would NOT run a x30 at 100W out continuous! Even > with air on it. Well, to each his own. I wasn't the first one to use mobile RF Decks in repeater operation. > The high power unit should not be run more then abt 30-40 W, > and the low power unit should not be run at more th

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread skipp025
> "Greg Beat" wrote: > Why would you want to? > > Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 > and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on > eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, > interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the TX RF transistors and >

[Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread briansoehl
First of all Thanks Tony and Steve. The radios are rated at "35W adjustable to 5W" I plan to run them at about 20W, and they aren't going to exceed about 30 to 40% duty cycle. So the PAs should be fine. AS far as a duplexer, it's already installed and tuned in the repeater I'm replacing.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread DCFluX
I'll chime in, Paypal inadvertently sent a transaction twice withen 4 seconds of each other. After holding for 30 minutes the asian lady on the phone said there was nothing she could do as the transaction already went through and I'd have to contact the seller and ask to refund one of the transact

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread wd8chl
On 3/16/2010 4:38 PM, skipp025 wrote: > >> "briansoehl" wrote: >> Has anyone built a repeater out of 2 TK-830G's? I have 2 >> and want to build a repeater to replace one. These are >> "high spec" radios designed for use in public safety and >> I feel they'd make a good repeater. >> Any help woul

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread kevin valentino
oops, forgot to mention another small detail. ebay actually owns paypal. Interesting  ?   Nice way for them to also collect interest on your money while they hold it on top of listing fees getting higher all the time. --- On Tue, 3/16/10, John J. Riddell wrote: From: John J. Riddell Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread Doug Hutchison
From whom did you order the controller?? On 16/03/2010 20:45:17, John J. Riddell (ve3...@earthlink.net) wrote: > Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a > repeater controller. > > I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just > "stock answe

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread Mark
I'll second Greg's observations about the TKR-820. I am using one as the primary repeater (exciter/driver) for my club's 440 machine in NE Illinois. It is a 25W station - turned down to about 7W to drive a 150W Crescend PA - and doesn't even really get warm at that power level. It's been in se

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread kevin valentino
It's happened to me several times as a seller. They hold the instant payment as "pending" Wont release it until you get positive feedback or send them delivery notification. Their idea of keeping sellers in check. My response to them after several calls was "why when I have 100% satisfaction and

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Beat
Why would you want to? Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the TX RF transistors and sometimes even the UHF duplexer ! I wo

[Repeater-Builder] Controller order , paypal problems

2010-03-16 Thread John J. Riddell
Some of you will recall that I had problems with Paypal when ordering a repeater controller. I sent two E mails to paypal and got no satisfactory reply...just "stock answers" I then called them to find out why they sent an E Check for my purchase instead of an instant money transfer. Again th

[Repeater-Builder] Re: building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread skipp025
> "briansoehl" wrote: > Has anyone built a repeater out of 2 TK-830G's? I have 2 > and want to build a repeater to replace one. These are > "high spec" radios designed for use in public safety and > I feel they'd make a good repeater. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Brian The TK-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread KT9AC
Brian, I agree with Steve, but as a side note if you can run the mobiles at their lowest rated *power* and use an external PA and fans, it should be ok. Rated power for example means a 10-25W model run at 10W (since below that it might induce problems). I have two Motorola GM300 1-10W radios (M

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit

2010-03-16 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Cross posted to rb list. - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: rfamplifi...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [rfamplifiers] Return Loss Bridge Kit Jeff & Skipp, There's an EBAY auction right now selling Eagle RF return loss bridges for $

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Gary Schafer
3” wide copper strap gives you 6” of surface area. ½” pipe gives you 1.57” surface area. So even 1” strap provides more surface area than ½ “ pipe. I think that you will find it less expensive than pipe and with the added benefit of not having to splice it every 10 feet. ¾” pipe gives you 2.3

Re: [Repeater-Builder] building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread Steve
Hi I assume they are mobiles and as such you will have to watch the tx pa or it will cook, rx wise no problem. Dosn't matter if they were made for PS use they were, like most mobiles only intended for limited tx times.. Steve - Original Message - From: "briansoehl" To: Sent: Tuesday, Ma

[Repeater-Builder] building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread briansoehl
Has anyone built a repeater out of 2 TK-830G's? I have 2 and want to build a repeater to replace one. These are "high spec" radios designed for use in public safety and I feel they'd make a good repeater. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Brian

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Thomas Oliver
Flat copper strap has less inductance (if it is flat and straight) as far as lightning is concerned. You will need a brazing alloy like this to join the sections of pipe. http://weldingsupply.securesites.com/cgi-bin/spider.pl?D620F1||1|700| This will give you a joint similar to cad welding, t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
It has been brought up about the issue of solidering the joints. It is better to install your ground system in a professional manner. Should something happen and you do take a strike and some one or their equipmet is injured or damaged then the cost savings are not worth the liability. Just a th

[Repeater-Builder] Super Station MasterPD-220 -3A 150.5-158.5 mHz

2010-03-16 Thread David Jordan
Hi Folks, Recently I read a note from a member of this list regarding retuning dipole elements of a commercial exposed dipole antenna, for 2m. Has anyone attempted same for subject type antenna? 73, Dave Wa3gin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Ralph S. Turk
Hi All. I used to use 3 1/8  and 1 5/8 copper transmission line in 20 ft lengths for ground systems at broadcast stations.  Was very effective.  Installed at a 2000ft tower which use to have a lot of damage due to lightning.  We buried 40 lengths in a circle about 30 ft from the tower ba

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Paul Plack wrote: > Russ, you may have to spend more on whatever you're using for power > than you're saving with those radios, as they pull 1.6 amps combined > even on standby receive. Also, develop a plan to keep the transmit > radio's heatsink cooled, even in low power mo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: > This "I want to build a portable repeater" question comes up so often, > I wonder if someone has time to turn it into an article for RB... Give me a minute (I mean a month) and I'll write something on how to do it right. Oh, but it takes two suitcases...

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread David Jordan
Softdrawn copper tubing comes in spools of 25-50-100ft. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lowell Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe ra

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread David Jordan
Strap meaning solid copper, not copper or silver tinned braid. However, one might argue that the copper tubing has an equal amount of surface area and is more robust than the thin copper strap being sold.. if you fold 3” wide copper strap into a piece of tubing you get a ¾” OD tube. So, does the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Lowell
It will work, you just have to bond each 10' section to the next with something other than soft solder. Lightning will blow lead solder right out of a joint. Cadweld would probably be best. GL, Eric  Eric Lowell Eastern Maine Electronics Inc. 48 Loon Road Wesley ME 04686 eme@starband.net www

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Gary Schafer
Copper strap is better as you get the benefit of both sides of the copper. 73 Gary K4FMX > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Lloyd > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:42 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yah

[Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire

2010-03-16 Thread Jesse Lloyd
Hey All, I am thinking about lightening protection for a site and using 1/2 copper pipe runs rather than a heavy guage wire like 2/0. 1/2 copper is about $2.20 a ft, while 2/0 is about $3/foot... and 2/0's diameter is about 0.36 inches so bang for the buck 1/2 copper pipe seems the way to go. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread kerincom
Your ok  Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: wd8chl Date: 3/17/2010 12:57:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Build

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread wd8chl
On 3/16/2010 10:16 AM, kerincom wrote: > Hi .I in Australia and over here there are lmr frequencies over 512mhz and > the split is 10meg but if the radio is uncapable of the 517mhz then I will > have to replace them with a radio that can operate on those frequencies > Oh-woops-for some reason it l

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread kerincom
Hi .I in Australia and over here there are lmr frequencies over 512mhz and the split is 10meg but if the radio is uncapable of the 517mhz then I will have to replace them with a radio that can operate on those frequencies  Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.471

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread wd8chl
On 3/16/2010 4:37 AM, Ham-Radio wrote: > Ian, > > The SM-4450-NE is 488 to 512. If you program 517 you are out of band for > that radio.. In fact, 517 is out of band period. The top of the LMR band is 512, so if someone is asking you to program 517, they are asking you to do something illegal.

[Repeater-Builder] Bird 4275 Signal Sampler

2010-03-16 Thread Fred Seamans
I have for sale a Bird Model 4275 Signal Sampler with adjustable coupling and with either type "N" or "UHF" connectors. This can be viewed in Birds General Catalog at: HTTP://www.bird-technologies.com/products/catalogs/1118-BTG-GenCat0010.p df Scroll down to Page 27 in the Catalo

[Repeater-Builder] Vocom UHF Amplifier Tuning Question.

2010-03-16 Thread n2len
Hello All, I just picked up 3 of these amplifiers last night and would like to shift them down to ham. (2) UVC 100-10 (1) UVC 200-80 They are currently on 461 mhz. I haven't looked inside them yet. Is the tuning similar in design to the TPL with tuning caps to peak for the input and output swr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Robert Pease
Look around on ebay or on some of the yahoo groups. I have seen midland commercial radios for as low as $10. I sold a ton for $35 about a year ago. And most people can program them for you also. They are much easier to get signals into and out of. Save the 2200 for a mobile as standard ham g

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread kerincom
Thanks for the reply.I felt that would be the case but I am still bushed to explain the two radios I am currently using as a repeater one on 517 and the other on 507 and their working well as far as I know .I have come across one or two of these radios that even programming them in band I carn;t ge

[Repeater-Builder] Palm Beach County Ham Radio Fest

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Lonstein
To all Radio Fest Staff, Volunteers, and Attendees: I just wanted to take a minute to thank all of you who attended the 2010 Palm Beach County Ham Radio Fest. We couldn't have asked for better weather! Everyone seemed to have a great time and the Tailgate section saw some brisk sales. Someti

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Paul Plack
Russ, what is your plan for duplexing? Those radios won't play well a few feet and 600 kHz apart. - 73, Paul AE4KR - Original Message - From: Russell Trippy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Russell Trippy
Thanks Nate, we are using radios at hand. we are a new club and are ARES in this county. I am building this unit just for call outs. We are using 2 mtr mainly due to not much activity on 70 ctmrs. I have built some cu copper 2mtr loops, I cannot believe the performance these little loops give ou

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450ne

2010-03-16 Thread Ham-Radio
Ian, The SM-4450-NE is 488 to 512. If you program 517 you are out of band for that radio.. The ones I have are the NC 450-470 and two special order NB 420-450 radios. The NB are not available anymore. I know on the ones I have, when you get more than about 1 MHz out of band the PLL will unlock

[Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-20 Repeater Info Needed

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Thompson
I'm looking for information about the Standard RPT-20 Repeater. I would like to know the RPT-20s specifications and get a copy of the manual and/or service manual. If anyone has any of this information or a link to it please let me know. Thanks in advance. 73, Mark, WB9QZB

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Russell Trippy
The controller is a CES RM-10  I look to the future because, that is where I will spend the rest of my life. From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:20:48 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Russell Trippy
Hi Paul, thank you very much. We are in our infancy and I had acess to these new units. The repeater will be used only for emergencies or sites needing communications. I have a much better idea where to go for the cor and discriminater now. I built a to go set up which has locks and I installed 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Nate Duehr
I completely missed that he said he was using a CES RM-10 controller. My bad. Nate

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Paul Plack
Russ, you may have to spend more on whatever you're using for power than you're saving with those radios, as they pull 1.6 amps combined even on standby receive. Also, develop a plan to keep the transmit radio's heatsink cooled, even in low power mode. But plunging ahead... Your controller can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cor location in an ic-2200h

2010-03-16 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Russell wrote: > Hi, I am building a portable repeater for our ARES Club. > I have 2 Icom IC-2200H 2 mtr units, a ces rm-10 controller. > I am new at this building, and cannot decipher the info > given by the controller instructions. It will help if you'll tell us w