RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Fred Seamans
: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:54 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power Also as Nate said, GE did not make a high power solid state amp. The Mastr II high power stations that I referred to use a normal Mastr II solid state PA to drive a tube

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Nate Duehr
Fred Seamans wrote: To All: GE *Did* make a solid state 200 watt UHF Transmitter. They used a 100 watt PA driver to two 100 watt PA’s less the 40 watt driver board and then recombined the two 100 watt to get 200 watts out. They sure are not efficient! I agree it would be better to use a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread MCH
In fact, they DID make high power non-tube amps. They used the standard amps, divided the drive, then combined the output of each amp to get the higher power. Joe M. Joe Burkleo wrote: Also as Nate said, GE did not make a high power solid state amp. The Mastr II high power stations that I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Kevin Custer
Fred Seamans wrote: To All: GE *Did* make a solid state 200 watt UHF Transmitter. Thanks Fred, I was hoping that you or Jeff DePolo would jump in there soon and straighten these guys out. BTW: I have one of the stations that Fred mentioned at one of my sites. It belongs to Jeff

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Nate Duehr
Kevin Custer wrote: I was hoping that you or Jeff DePolo would jump in there soon and straighten these guys out. Yeah yeah yeah... I know, I know. Sheesh. BTW: I have one of the stations that Fred mentioned at one of my sites. It belongs to Jeff DePolo. It will run 200+ watts all day

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread MCH
The math isn't that hard. 200W (53.01 dBm) is about 7.6 dB over 35W (45.44 dBm), so the RX would have to be about 7.6 dB better than 0.15 uV (-123.5 dBm), or about -131 dBm which is 0.06 uV. The antenna gains and losses cancel each other out since they apply to both TX and RX. Joe M. Nate

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power The math isn't that hard. 200W (53.01 dBm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Kevin Custer
Nate Duehr wrote: KC wrote: BTW: I have one of the stations that Fred mentioned at one of my sites. It belongs to Jeff DePolo. It will run 200+ watts all day and night, and with a good MASTR II receiver (hand selected) with a Chip Angle preamp, it takes all of the 200 watts to keep up with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Nate Duehr
Scott Zimmerman wrote: Although what Joe says is true, the system is balanced more so than the math would indicate. This is due to most users ears requiring more than .15uV sensitivity to pick out a weak signal. realize that the SINADs of BOTH the repeater and the mobile rig would be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Paul Plack
...and that's on UHF. Let's talk low-band! Kevin, thanks for the thoughtful math. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE uhf high power

2008-09-04 Thread Joe Burkleo
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power Also as Nate said, GE did not make a high power solid state amp. The Mastr II high power stations that I referred to use a normal Mastr II solid state PA to drive a tube amplifier to acheive the 225-250 Watts on UHF or 375 Watts on VHF

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power

2008-09-03 Thread Joe Burkleo
You might try contacting Larry K7LJ. He posts on here occasionally and I know he had a couple of these the last time I talked to him, but that was a couple months ago. They are more like 350 Watts. Joe --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kb4ptj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i am looking

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power

2008-09-03 Thread Joe Burkleo
oops, UHF are 225-250 Watts, it is the VHF that are 350 Watts. Joe --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe Burkleo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try contacting Larry K7LJ. He posts on here occasionally and I know he had a couple of these the last time I talked to him, but that was

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ge uhf high power

2008-09-03 Thread Joe Burkleo
Also as Nate said, GE did not make a high power solid state amp. The Mastr II high power stations that I referred to use a normal Mastr II solid state PA to drive a tube amplifier to acheive the 225-250 Watts on UHF or 375 Watts on VHF. If you are not familiar with high power tube transmitters