Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-09 Thread wd8chl
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: And some evening spend some time reading this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-about-rf-communications.pdf Yes, some of the info is 40 years old, but the physics of RF hasn't changed. Mike WA6ILQ And never will! At least not until somebody figures out how

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-09 Thread n9wys
John, In the cases I have seen, an Iso-Tee is constructed by removing the center pin in the offset side of a UHF T connector, grinding it down until it is flat with the insulator surface (add a notch so you can re-insert with a screwdriver) and reinsert the pin into the connector. This

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-09 Thread william474
Additional accuracy can be obtained by providing a 50 ohm load for the generator. This can be accomplished by connecting the center of the ISO T to the center of the unmodified T to form an H configuration. Then connect the generator to one end of the unmodified T and a 50 ohm load to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread Kerincom
Replace the lmr400 with heliax .we hjave had nothing but problems with it since changing it to heliax the problem has been cleared up Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread Ron Wright
Bill, In finding desense first one must locate the problem. A given. I would start with putting GOOD dummy load on the duplexer output and do a desense test. This can be done with a local signal gen where you can vary the gen output and keying and unkey the transmitter. You should see no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Don't leave out the isolated TEE between the duplexer and dummy load, Ron. Hi, Steve NU5D Ron Wright wrote: Bill, In finding desense first one must locate the problem. A given. I would start with putting GOOD dummy load on the duplexer output and do a desense test. This can be done

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread dmurman
Have you run the repeater into a dummy load and check for desense? David = From: Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/07 Mon AM 02:24:30 WET To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems Greetings

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread de W5DK
-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:39 AM To: Bill Wilson; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems Have you run the repeater into a dummy load and check for desense

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Just to echo previous comments, the LMR type cable (any cable with aluminum foil/braid combination) is suspect. This subject comes up here about every other week. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread wd8chl
de W5DK wrote: Not to hijack the thread, but a dummy load is NOT always a perfect test to eliminate the equipment. I think it’s a good start though. I just solved a situation where I had 15 db desense into a 600ft feedline / antenna and ZERO desense into a dummy load. This was using a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:24 PM 07/06/08, you wrote: Greetings Group, I had hoped to be able to purchase off-the-shelf components for a 2 meter repeater for our local club to use. I purchased a Maggoire HiPro R1VHF35, 35 watt version, and with their recommendation a set of FiPlex DVN-1533L Duplexers (6 cans).

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater Desense Problems

2008-07-08 Thread no6b
At 7/8/2008 11:37, you wrote: If you can't hear them you can't repeat them, so a repeater that has a 1.5db of feedline loss (100 feet of LMR400 at 2m) from the antenna to the receiver is not going to hear as well as one that has 0.5db of loss (100 feet of 7/8 inch heliax at 2m). ...except if