Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-29 Thread Larry Rappaport
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to All, I am starting to develop a future ham repeater relation with a tower site(s) owner and recently got a request for something unusual. The company has a fleet of VHF radio equipped vehicles. They want to pull up to a site, enter a touch-tone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-29 Thread Paul M Schmitter
Biggest problem I can see is security. Anyone can receive the frequency and the tones. Simple to program a ham radio to the same freq and tone. Anybody with any radio experience will be able to open the gate(s). Might as well just leave the gates open. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-29 Thread w5zit
One thing that can be done is have a receiver with the PL tone used to open the gate located at the office. Any time that tone is received, the office would know that someone was accessing the site. If it were not authorized, law enforcement could be dispatched to the site. A controller

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-27 Thread k1ike_mail
Actually, they will have to replace all the mikes with TT mikes. Given the cost of the new mikes and special equipment at the electric gates, etc, it would be a lot cheaper to go with the garage door opener style system. Maybe I'll work up an estimate of what they might spent for both systems

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-27 Thread Jack Taylor
Are there plans on the web for using garage door systems to operate gates? Remember, the gate may have to be modified to work with the garage door opener. One can find similar systems at Home Improvement centers in the $500 - $1,000 range, depending upon the gate style. From a security

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-27 Thread Milt
Here's an easy idea that is currently in use. A police department wanted a way to open a garage door from the cruiser, other than calling the station and having them push a button. Solution was to take an old radio (Maxtrac in thsis case) laying around, install it into a metal box, bring out

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
I have been following this thread with some interest, because the suggestions vary between relative extremes of cost. complexity, and practicality. As I understand the concept, the originator seeks to improve his relationship with the site owner, and has offered to improve site security and ease

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Why not just use a garage door opener radio? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s) Hello to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 01:03 PM 05/26/07, you wrote: Hello to All, I am starting to develop a future ham repeater relation with a tower site(s) owner and recently got a request for something unusual. The company has a fleet of VHF radio equipped vehicles. They want to pull up to a site, enter a touch-tone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Dick
Joe: Probably one of the cheapoest ways to do this would be to get an el cheapo rptr controller and connect it to a VHF rcvr. The company can then buy DTMF mikes for their radios. If it were me, I'd set up a separate VHF freq or the same freq with a different PL for the gate actuator. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Dick
Good idea, Chuck. Sorry I didn't think of that. Keep it simple. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 May, 2007 13:23 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s) Why

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It'll be much more secure than broadcasting tones over the company frequency where someone could be listening. Also, the garage door openers are short range so that there's less chance of an accidental unlocking. Chuck - Original Message - From: Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Maire-Radios
here is the all put together item. get a mobile there has tome decode in it and a relay output and you will have it all done. Some of the Kenwood's and Icoms we sell will do it. John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread k1ike_mail
But, if I did this, it would not be an off the shelf product and I would end up being the support repair for the units. There may be several of them. They want to use the talk around frequency to activate the gate. joe -- Original message -- From: Dick [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread k1ike_mail
If I ended up doing an external TT decoder, I'd probably use the Comm Spec unit. Joe -- Original message -- From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] NHRC has a DTMF control board for $90 http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-remote-plus/ however it controls 8 devices.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread k1ike_mail
This is absolutely the best idea so far, thanks. Cost does not seem to be an issue at this point. Product support can be by their existing two-way shop that maintains the fleet radios. Thanks, Joe -- Original message -- From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread k1ike_mail
They rejected this idea. They want to use the company radios, for some reason that I can't figure out. Joe -- Original message -- From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] It'll be much more secure than broadcasting tones over the company frequency where someone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread k1ike_mail
You are correct. That's why I want to find something commercially built and recommend it to their two-way radio group or electrician. I want to keep my distance from this project. My part of the project would be to find something that they want, not necessarily what I would do. I tried to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Dick
Joe, using the talkaround freq works, but do they have DTMF mikes? I really like Chuck's idea of a garage door opener. Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 May, 2007 15:25 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Dick
They already own the radios, they already have the freq, no new in-vehicle gear needed and no training to speak of. Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 May, 2007 15:22 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Phil Hebert
Try this unit, hooked to a receiver at the site. http://www.dschmidt.com/dtmf.html

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Need to find a product to develop goodwill at a tower site(s)

2007-05-26 Thread Dexter McIntyre
How about using a receiver programmed for the same frequency and tone that the user regularly uses. Let the tone decoder activate the gate but RF shield the receiver so the range is limited such that the operator has to be in site of the gate. No additional unit programming or touch tone