Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
First, don't expect to land exactly where you expect simply by adjusting the lengths to a specific dimension. You really need to place the antenna on a tower to adjust properly and use an antenna analyzer. The length of feedline from each antenna remains the same. You need to shorten the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-18 Thread Kevin Custer
Chuck Kelsey wrote: First, don't expect to land exactly where you expect simply by adjusting the lengths to a specific dimension. You really need to place the antenna on a tower to adjust properly and use an antenna analyzer. grin Reminds me of my first experience with a Cushcraft AFM-4DA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-17 Thread Adam T. Cately
If'n I remember correctly... Fred Vobbe built his own 6m loop antennas for his repeater array - maybe someone could arm-twist him for his story about the antennas and harness. (Sorry Fred - I know you'se busy...) At 06:28 PM 11/16/09 -, you wrote: Yes please Jeff... thanks

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-17 Thread Neal Newman
Yep I have 2 6 meter repeaters I would be interested in the data to build a few DB-212 antennas Neal KA2CAF --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Adam T. Cately atcat...@bright.net wrote: From: Adam T. Cately atcat...@bright.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-15 Thread Chuck Kelsey
FYI - Sinclair got the extra bandwidth by stager tuning the antenna element from the 1/4-wave matching transformer that is inside the element. The trade-off was a decrease in return loss (higher VSWR). Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-15 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've seen some return loss figures in the 30-40 dB range on the Decibel antenna. However, sweep one and report back. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:57 AM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-15 Thread Burt Lang
The low-band loop from Sinclair (SRL 110) was not nearly as wide band as the Hi band (SRL210) and UHF models (SRL310). The latter were designed to be mounted either half wave or quarter wave from the tower or mast. In the case of the low band loop a half wave would have put the loop 10 ft

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-15 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I was hoping that Burt would chime in. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Burt Lang b...@gorum.ca To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212) The low-band loop from

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building Low Band Loop Antennas (DB-212)

2009-11-15 Thread Jeff DePolo
I have dimensional data for both Decibel and Celwave lowband folded dipoles *somewhere*. If there's interest I'll hunt for them. I think the Celwave design (with the stingers) would be easier to fabricate - no bending involved. --- Jeff WN3A -Original