Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-29 Thread Wayne
had been dropped. My 3 cents worth. - Original Message - From: Mung Bungholio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 16:17 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios Are you sure about that? They were actually selling them at one point

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-29 Thread wd8chl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry even the guys on the personal radio website can't figure this out. No one seems to agree on it. But it seems like as long as I don't have it ID when no one is on it then no one here will have a realy issue with it. Oh wait that was another

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Radio Shack did sell a simplex repeater controller at one time. They are on e-bay much of the time. However, this is only a controller, not a repeater. I don't think RS sold a radio wired to this controller as a package. The use of the controller was up to the buyer...mostly for Ham use,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
The way the FCC often looks at things if it don't say you can do it you cannot. Of course this is not always the case. It don't say in Part 97 one does not have to know the code to get a license. It does state what is required, but what is NOT required. However, in commercial serices

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
I don't plan to use one of those for my store and forward. I am going to run one of the software based tools that will do it. That will also give me a remote way to turn it off. Vern On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:44:13 -0500 (CDT) Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Radio Shack did sell a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. If they didn't want it on GMRS wouldn't they just add or GMRS at the end of that line? Almost seems like they want to make sure you don't do it on the FRS channels so that you have to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Daron Wilson
In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. Where is this again? I’m just not finding all these rules you folks are saying are out there. Thanks,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
Even though FRS and GMRS share the same freq segment, they are treated differently. I don't think one can have a base station on FRS even if using low power. FRS rules would not apply to GMRS and vise/versa. If it says FRS only the reg would not apply to GMRS just as you said. I guess

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
Don't worry even the guys on the personal radio website can't figure this out. No one seems to agree on it. But it seems like as long as I don't have it ID when no one is on it then no one here will have a realy issue with it. Oh wait that was another discussion :) Anyway. There are plenty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread mung
It's all in here somewhere. http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_07/47cfr95_07.html On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:49:09 -0700 Daron Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and forward repeater on the FRS channels. Where is this again?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I think simplex repeaters have two obvious applications: 1. When no pairs are available they are an option on simplex frequencies 2. In the event a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I think simplex repeaters have two obvious applications: 1. When no pairs are available they are an option on simplex frequencies 2. In the event a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Mung Bungholio
: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios At 07:44 5/28/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Simplex repeaters have their use such as for announcments. As for regular radio-to-radio comm it sucks I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-28 Thread Ron Wright
It does state in the regs one cannot put on a repeater for FRS. One can for GMRS that allows for higher power and requires a license, but not FRS. As for allowing simplex repeater on GMRS I could not find a restriction, but also did not find a reg allowing it. One point in the following:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
Are you sure about that? They were actually selling them at one point. I think Radio Shack had one. I would like to see where it says you can't do it. I will read again but I didn't see it written anywhere. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Steve
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 16:17 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios Are you sure about that? They were actually selling them at one point. I think Radio Shack had one. I would like to see where it says you can't do it. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
First of all I know we are not supposed to talk about part 97 rules on here but these are part 95 so that should be OK right J Anyway. I wonder if you are talking about store and forward being forbidden on FRS? That is true. Here is some reading material about store and forward on GMRS.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
It is true, and it is in the FCC rules. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
, 2008 7:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios It is true, and it is in the FCC rules. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio Sent

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
Of Richard Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios I am not questioning the frequency tolerance rules. However a question there does come up. Is a mobile that is hooked up to my 75' tower a mobile or a base station? I can still move the radio any time I want. From