Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-12 Thread Ron Wright
have to get use to addressing them. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/11 Sun PM 02:28:58 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem > >I don't h

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-11 Thread DCFluX
- > *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mike Morris WA6ILQ > *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:29 PM > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem > > I don'

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-11 Thread Richard
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem I don't have my Dallas Semi book handy, but if I remember correctly the "10 years" spec was 10 unpowered years - if the Smartwatch was in a device that was powered up the battery was not being drained. But you still had to factor in

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-11 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I don't have my Dallas Semi book handy, but if I remember correctly the "10 years" spec was 10 unpowered years - if the Smartwatch was in a device that was powered up the battery was not being drained. But you still had to factor in the shelf life of the internal coin cell. At 03:44 AM 11/10/

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-10 Thread no6b
At 11/10/2007 04:02, you wrote: >EPROMs are a bunch of capacitors, yes capacitors, that have a very very >high dielectric resistance. When one programs a cel they are charging the >cel with a voltage usually making a 1 or 0 (depends on the design). Stored charge is involved, but not quite in a

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-10 Thread Ron Wright
If one is concerned with this one can often take the EPROM out, insert in programmer, read it, erase it (if not OTP) and then re-program it for another life cycle. It is not the EPROM has a life, but the stored info has a finite time it is held or stored. Some EPROMs have the capability of loc

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-10 Thread Ron Wright
Richard, All EEPROMs have a finite life to maintain their programmed info. The earlier ones were in the months time frame (this is in the 70s) and were used for development only. Later in the 80s most were up to 10 years. Today 40 years is common. It is not a factor of the device going bad

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-10 Thread Ron Wright
Eric, As Kevin said if your 96 has one of the Dallas Smartwatch the battery in some of them had a life of 10 years. It was basically the shelf life of the battery. Most of the Smartwatch's I've seen used a RAM as the memory rather than a EPROM. The battery maintained the memory when power was