Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > If reimplementing something is easy to do (which is generally true > considering we all have Zope's source) and allows you to drop all that > extra baggage that - why not? Because you have to maintain it forever. Of course, you may not mind doing that - it'll be a case-

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package > >> that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to > >> serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an X

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Everitt wrote: > On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> Wichert Akkerman wrote: >>> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Paul Everitt wrote: >> On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> >>> Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with >>> BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great >>> work >>> coming out of the Repoze project. >>> >

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Paul Everitt
On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" >>> package >>> that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants >>> to >>> serialise Zope 3 sche

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package >>> that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to >>> serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an XML representati

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Everitt wrote: > On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with >> BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great >> work >> coming out of the Repoze project. >> >> However, if Repoze is aimin

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package >>> that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to >>> serialise Zope

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: >> If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package >> that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to >> serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an XML representation) well, >> it uses zope:

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: > repoze.zcml is a symptom that an improvement is needed further down the > stack. In the Plone world, we've learned the hard way that rolling your > own to avoid having to push something deeper into the stack is a costly > strategy in the long run. Paul should certainly kn

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Paul Everitt
On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with > BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great > work > coming out of the Repoze project. > > However, if Repoze is aiming to bridge the gap between t

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: > If you want to pull in, say, plone.supermodel (a "pure Zope 3" package > that should be re-usable and may be useful to BFG if it ever wants to > serialise Zope 3 schema interfaces to/from an XML representation) well, > it uses zope:* ZCML directives. Are you goi

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Tres Seaver wrote: > Note that one change I would make to the docs is to make using the 'bfg' > namespace *not* the default in the examples; marking each non-Zope > directive with 'bfg:' (in the examples, not necessarily in a real-world > config) would remind people, "this is not your father's Ol

Re: [Repoze-dev] bfg zcml directives...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin Aspeli
Mmmm... I didn't mean for this to get quite so emotional. :) Chris (and Agendaless) is of course free to do whatever he wants with BFG. And as I've shown many times, I'm very supportive of the great work coming out of the Repoze project. However, if Repoze is aiming to bridge the gap between th