Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-17 Thread Darryl Cousins
Hey Attila, On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Attila Oláh attilao...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 21:52, Darryl Cousins darryljcous...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tim, On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Iain I have a number of projects on

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-17 Thread Tim Hoffman
HI Darryl Here's a couple of quick tips and these where a big win for us. 1. Memcache page output heavily, and if possible serve the pages without even starting up or initialising bfg. We found we could do a cold startup and serve a page from cache in 200ms cached page from memcache in 30ms.

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-17 Thread Darryl Cousins
Hi Tim, On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: HI Darryl Here's a couple of quick tips and these where a big win for us. 1.  Memcache page output heavily, and  if possible serve the pages without even starting up or initialising bfg. We found we could do a

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-16 Thread Darryl Cousins
Hi Tim, On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Iain I have a number of projects on app engine.  Some using repoze.bfg (www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au (paid work), www.fishandlily.com.au (my small business)) and others just using zope.component and bobo (not

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-16 Thread Attila Oláh
Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 21:52, Darryl Cousins darryljcous...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tim, On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Iain I have a number of projects on app engine.  Some using repoze.bfg (www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au (paid work),

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/15/10 14:57 , Charlie Clark wrote: Am 15.04.2010, 01:48 Uhr, schrieb Iain Duncaniainduncanli...@gmail.com: Also curious about the economics of cloud deployment vs renting servers, input welcome. That's very much apples and spaceships. Utility services (cloud is such a deliberately

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-15 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 15.04.2010, 15:54 Uhr, schrieb Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net: Isn 't it incredibly hard to predict costs for cloud services? Not a known and predictable requirement basis. There are problems with some of the cheapest options such as Amazon's new auction-based service. But for

[Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-14 Thread Iain Duncan
Hey all, I have an app that eventually is intended to be used as a subscriber service. I'm totally new to the cloud thing, wondering if experienced bfg'ers would like to weigh in with their experiences - what is your preferred cloud deployment for bfg apps? - what persistence mechanism gets used?

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-14 Thread Iain Duncan
Also curious about the economics of cloud deployment vs renting servers, input welcome. Iain On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, I have an app that eventually is intended to be used as a subscriber service. I'm totally new to the cloud thing,

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-14 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Iain I have a number of projects on app engine. Some using repoze.bfg (www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au (paid work), www.fishandlily.com.au (my small business)) and others just using zope.component and bobo (not public yet). We are using app engines persistence model which is simple and straight

Re: [Repoze-dev] GAE or other 'cloud' choices for bfg apps?

2010-04-14 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Iain http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/entitiesandmodels.html Will get you started on app engines high level datastore peristence. T ___ Repoze-dev mailing list Repoze-dev@lists.repoze.org