Re: indexing problem

2004-06-04 Thread Norberto Masciocchi
Dear Arie, what you mention is a rather common occurrence, which may depend on (at least) to factors: a) the presence of a short axis or a dominant zone (making the whole powder pattern indexable by a 2D reciprocal lattice) b) sample morphology (say, needles) leading to a partial sampling of the

Re: indexing problem

2004-06-04 Thread Armel Le Bail
How to pick up the right solution between these high M20 solutions? No exact solution to that problem related to the needle to be found in a hay bundle. The ultimate proof that a solution is the right one is to solve the structure. Having only 31 hkls, this is not completely impossible with an

Re: indexing problem

2004-06-04 Thread A. van der Lee
Dear Norberto, Thanks for your rapid answer. The obvious way out from this second problem can be a different preparation of the sample, changing texture coefficients, just aiming to detect the 'missing informative peaks'. The sample was in-situ crystallised by putting a drop of the mother

Re: indexing problem

2004-06-04 Thread Norberto Masciocchi
Following up the '2D' indexing.. The sample was in-situ crystallised by putting a drop of the mother liquid on a silicon substrate and letting evaporate the solvent. This should favour a random orientation of the crystallites, not? Unfortunately NOT. I have seen preferential crystallization

Re: indexing problem

2004-06-04 Thread pstephens
Topas software is very good at solving such short axis problems. The advantage is that it will look at all of the peaks you feed it, instead of using just the first twenty or so to generate candidate solutions (the way that ITO and TREOR work). If you don't have access to Topas, I suggest the

Re: fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Jon Wright
Is the fundamental parameter approach better than mathematical approach used in most of the Rietveld refinement programs? Perhaps someone is about to explain the difference is between fundamental parameters and anything else? I used to think it might mean convoluting something which was

Re: fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Whitfield, Pamela
Nandini If you're using standard Bragg-Brentano the true fundamental parameters fitting from first principles will happily fit low angle asymmetry, as the mathematical basis for it is well known (look for some papers that Alan Coehlo and Bob Cheary did a while back, in J.Appl.Cryst I think).

Re: fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Patrick Mercier
Hi all, Here are the references to these papers: Cheary RW, Coelho AA (1998a) Axial divergence in a conventional X-ray powder diffractometer. I. theoretical foundations. J. Appl. Cryst. 31:851-861 Cheary RW, Coelho AA (1998b) Axial divergence in a conventional X-ray powder diffractometer. II.

Re: fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Whitfield, Pamela
Our system has double mirrors and I could never get FCJ to give as good a fit, but then that may be a peculiarity of these optics. My memory is a bit hazy so I can't remember what function the simple axial model uses, but I don't think it's a function of diffractometer characteristics. Topas is

fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Whitfield, Pamela
Jilin As far as I'm aware there is no repository for Topas str files. Bruker does sell a (fairly) comprehensive set for those without the time or inclination to make their own. Topas will import CIF files, but the ICSD doesn't always export CIF files in the same format as Topas is expecting.

RE: fundamental parameters approach

2004-06-04 Thread Whitfield, Pamela
In addition, the raytracing fundamental approach describes at now (planar) transmission geometry and capillar geometry. Don't know about the planar transmission (never done it), but I can happily fit capillary data off my system. I have no quibbles about the effectiveness of ray-tracing, but