RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Y. Zavalij
I do exactly the same - fit tube tails using LaB6 standard and use the parameters (usually w/o fitting) in all other refinements. Although tube tails fitting helps a lot it's not perfect. Peter Zavalij -Original Message- From: Alan Coelho [mailto:alancoe...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday,

RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread mariomacias
Dear All, Really, I appreciate too much all your comments. I'm glad to be part of this list. My best wishes. Mario. I do exactly the same - fit tube tails using LaB6 standard and use the parameters (usually w/o fitting) in all other refinements. Although tube tails fitting helps a lot

RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Matt Beekman
Alan, Peter, Would you mind briefly elaborating on the procedure used to fit tube tails? I personally have only used GSAS for Rietveld refinement, and other than adding another phase(s) with slightly different lattice parameter(s) I am not sure I understand how you would account for the

RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Peter Y. Zavalij
Matt, I forgot to mention that it was done using fundamental parameters in TOPAS which has built-in tube tails function. I don't think GSAS has it. Alan probably can tell you more how it is realized in TOPSAS. Peter Zavalij -Original Message- From: Matt Beekman

RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Alex Yokochi
Matt, The one time I tried to model tube tails with widely available software was in Fullprof and the approach was to include extra wavelengths in the profile. In case you would like to get a good understanding of the fundamental parameters approach, see Cheary, Coelho and Cline's paper in the

RE: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Alan Coelho
Matt I am not sure I understand how you would account for the additional wavelengths in the beam. Tube tails is spectrally independent and its aberration shape is 2Th independent. Its realized in TOPAS by a convolution called stacked_hats which, as its name suggests, convolutes a series of

Re: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Leopoldo Suescun
Hi, Wouldn't a change of Ni filter for a thicker one at least reduce significantly the problem. It would absorb mostly below the edge but still will absorb a significant amount of all the radiation that goes through reducing the tails? Or a monochromator is the only solution? Would a tube

Re: Instrumental resolution function

2013-09-16 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
Tubetails are simply the result of emission of the target radiation from outside the wanted line focus, some mm around. Depending on tube quality, age and operating power, one can have varying shapes when projected on the 2theta scale. Examples: http://www.bgmn.de/tubetails.html As you can