Re: [atlas] Meaning and the future of the project

2024-02-05 Thread Randy Bush
> I have been involved in this project for over 12 years. For the last > few weeks I have been wondering what the point of this is. OK, I have > given out credits to students for research, though sometimes they do > not even say thank you. The firmware on the probes has not changed for > years, the

[atlas] Meaning and the future of the project

2024-02-05 Thread Petr Kutalek via ripe-atlas
Hello, I have been involved in this project for over 12 years. For the last few weeks I have been wondering what the point of this is. OK, I have given out credits to students for research, though sometimes they do not even say thank you. The firmware on the probes has not changed for years, th

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
The same farming is observed in other AS47583 locations: US, UK, France, Netherlands, Lithuania, India, Singapore, Indonesia. Regards, Grzegorz -- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Daniel AJ Sokolov
Has anyone from RIPE ATLAS tried to contact and ask the operators of these probes? BR Daniel AJ On 2/5/24 14:39, Job Snijders wrote: Dear all, With no hats ... On Mon, Feb 05, 2024 at 09:17:46PM +, Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) wrote: if the goal is farm credits, remove the credits obtaine

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, With no hats ... On Mon, Feb 05, 2024 at 09:17:46PM +, Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) wrote: > if the goal is farm credits, remove the credits obtained by these > probes to prevent these situations from proliferating. While I agree with the sentiment, I am not sure we can be certain th

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Jared Mauch
I would think that type=software && bgp_prefix = same (at least the same /24 and /48) would be a decent method to define similar. - Jared -- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread kix
Totally agree with Grzegorz, IMO we should avoid this kind of situations, there should be filters for this kind of probes and maybe, if the goal is farm credits, remove the credits obtained by these probes to prevent these situations from proliferating. kix On Monday, February 5th, 2024 at 22:

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ernst J. Oud
Very weird, as mentioned one message to this mailing list and you can er millions of credit. Why would anyone do this? Could it have some other reason? Criminals trying to find IP addresses that respond to ICMP ping requests and then try to hack those addresses? I really think the owner of the

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
I reported the problem in March 2022 but without good solution :/ https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-atlas/2022-March/004961.html Filtering out all software probes is not a solution because many of them are good and useful. We should have filters to filter out probes which are useless

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Randy Bush
> While doing some measurement work earlier this weekend I discovered > that there are a large amount of probes on AS47583 that look like > they are being set up to farm credits. seems silly, as all one has to do to get a jillion credits is asl on the mailing list randy -- ripe-atlas mailing

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ben Cartwright-Cox via ripe-atlas
You can already do this, you select to exclude the "System: Software" tag On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 3:23 PM Ian Chilton wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, at 3:11 PM, Ben Cartwright-Cox via ripe-atlas wrote: > > Now while I myself don't particularly care about credit farming on > RIPE Atlas (Aft

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Robert Kisteleki
Hello, On 2024-02-05 16:11, Ben Cartwright-Cox via ripe-atlas wrote: Hi everybody, While doing some measurement work earlier this weekend I discovered that there are a large amount of probes on AS47583 that look like they are being set up to farm credits. With a suspiciously high amount of pu

Re: [atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ian Chilton
Hi, On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, at 3:11 PM, Ben Cartwright-Cox via ripe-atlas wrote: > Now while I myself don't particularly care about credit farming on > RIPE Atlas (After all RIPE Atlas credit is kind of like Monopoly > money), I do care about things becoming biased towards these software > probes. Mi

[atlas] Possible software probe "farming" on AS47583

2024-02-05 Thread Ben Cartwright-Cox via ripe-atlas
Hi everybody, While doing some measurement work earlier this weekend I discovered that there are a large amount of probes on AS47583 that look like they are being set up to farm credits. With a suspiciously high amount of purely software probes on the same IP prefix and sequential IPv6 addresses

Re: [atlas] Retiring old ("legacy") UI pages and deprecated API calls

2024-02-05 Thread Robert Kisteleki
As part of the RIPE Atlas user interface renewal last year, we released a new measurement scheduling form and new probe and measurement lists. Since these changes the old pages were still accessible via changed URLs. By now the use of these pages all but disappeared, and we'll remove these f