[atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
Hi all! I discovered a disturbing practice how RIPE Atlas probes are used by at least one major provider which significantly impacts measurement results and interpretation of these results. I want to share it with you to open discuss about how to deal with such cases. I was doing traceroutes f

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Grzegorz, While I don't have an immediate response about whether/what RIPE ATLAS should do, I'm curious to know whether there's a simple criterion (e.g., ASN?) to select the probes in question. I'd like to see whether my measurements show any bias for them. I'm asking publicly because othe

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ernst J. Oud
Grzegorz, Are these software of hardware probes? If hardware then the “experiment” they are used in has cost RIPE funds for the hardware. In my opinion that is worse than using SW probes. Regards, Ernst J. Oud Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst J. Oud > On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:38, Ponikierski, Grze

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Colin Johnston
Which ASN does this relate to ? Colin Sent from my iPod > On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:13, Ernst J. Oud wrote: > > Grzegorz, > > Are these software of hardware probes? If hardware then the “experiment” they > are used in has cost RIPE funds for the hardware. In my opinion that is worse > than usin

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 02:30:13PM +, Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas wrote a message of 149 lines which said: > RIPE Atlas probes are not tagged and separated into groups that can > be used appropriately for public and internal/private measurements. This is not enirely true, RIPE At

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
Since we talk about usage of public service, I think that there is nothing to hide. Let me answer all questions. Problem refers to these PCCW AS3491 probes: 7007 7010 7032 7079 7080 7172 7198 1002754 1002771 1002785 1002844 1003737 1005609 They are are virtual anchor and software probes. PCCW h