Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
"Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas" Reply to: "Ponikierski, Grzegorz" Date: Tuesday, 2 July 2024 at 11:38 To: "ripe-atlas@ripe.net" Subject: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks Hi all! I discovered a disturbing practice how RIPE Atlas probes are used b

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 02:30:13PM +, Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas wrote a message of 149 lines which said: > RIPE Atlas probes are not tagged and separated into groups that can > be used appropriately for public and internal/private measurements. This is not enirely true, RIPE At

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Colin Johnston
Which ASN does this relate to ? Colin Sent from my iPod > On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:13, Ernst J. Oud wrote: > > Grzegorz, > > Are these software of hardware probes? If hardware then the “experiment” they > are used in has cost RIPE funds for the hardware. In my opinion that is worse > than usin

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ernst J. Oud
Grzegorz, Are these software of hardware probes? If hardware then the “experiment” they are used in has cost RIPE funds for the hardware. In my opinion that is worse than using SW probes. Regards, Ernst J. Oud Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst J. Oud > On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:38, Ponikierski, Grze

Re: [atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Grzegorz, While I don't have an immediate response about whether/what RIPE ATLAS should do, I'm curious to know whether there's a simple criterion (e.g., ASN?) to select the probes in question. I'd like to see whether my measurements show any bias for them. I'm asking publicly because othe

[atlas] Atlas probes in non-production networks

2024-07-02 Thread Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas
Hi all! I discovered a disturbing practice how RIPE Atlas probes are used by at least one major provider which significantly impacts measurement results and interpretation of these results. I want to share it with you to open discuss about how to deal with such cases. I was doing traceroutes f