Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-27 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > In case of classical it really is ( in other genres an album can be the > work ), making pseudo albums with works sounds like an idea . > Breakes compatibilty with some plugins that's looking up album info > online , reviews etc . > Makes tagging messy and ripping to ? > > Best sol

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-27 Thread dolodobendan
JohnB wrote: > > In general I treat each work as an album. > But do you tag it this way because you think it is a good idea to tag it this way or just because (right now) there's no other way? LMS 7.9.1@1.02 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-27 Thread dolodobendan
Daverz wrote: > I don't like the one album per work method as I prefer to keep the > original album configuration. > > The simplest way with the least tagging is to fill the composer tag and > use the 7.9 composer menu together with a controller app that has easy > to edit playlists (like iPeng)

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-28 Thread dolodobendan
Daverz wrote: > The request for the GROUPING tag (id3 TIT1) goes back to 2004. > > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557 > > SUBTITLE (id3 TIT3) would also be useful. If even iTunes supports this for ages now, what's the holdup? LMS 7.9.1@1.02 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-28 Thread dolodobendan
Apesbrain wrote: > Like others I treat the CD(s) as a single album if it makes sense, e.g. > "Piano Concertos (Kocsis/BFO/Fischer)". I put the performers in the > album title as I might have different performances of that same work. > If the CD(s) contain a mix of works or multiple composers/pe

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-28 Thread dolodobendan
> No doubt, but having dozens of these "mixed" folders I am wary of > retagging all of them. That would be an option, not an obligation. > We are lucky that @mherger and many users have kept LMS alive and > improving as much as they have. And I'm happy about that! But, as you already said, th

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-28 Thread dolodobendan
garym wrote: > I understand. Given your recent forum join dates wasn’t sure if you > knew. I have to admit I was surprised about this amount of activity in this forum given that Logitech officially abandoned LMS. Amazing. So, there's still hope for these tags. ;) LMS 7.9.1@1.02 (digimaster) /

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-30 Thread dolodobendan
Wirrunna wrote: > There was a recent thread that may be of interest - > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107225-There-has-to-be-a-better-way > > Michael Herger's addition of Full Text Search to LMS 7.9 has made > finding classical music in your LMS server easy. The results are sorte

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2017-12-31 Thread dolodobendan
Wirrunna wrote: > Depends on your tagging template, look from > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107225-There-has-to-be-a-better-way&p=880891&viewfull=1#post880891 > how I have tagged classical works. Let me start with: You're totally missing out on Karajan & Berliner Philharmoniker

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] There has to be a better way...

2017-12-31 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > I would also try to be as "standard" as possible . > > bending the tags to much to suit one playback application can make more > work for you down the road . I concur. I would use the "real" tags (even if you have to make them up and they are not supported yet) and just bend the s

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2018-01-04 Thread dolodobendan
mherger wrote: > I don't know, really. The documentation of the Audio::Scan module > (https://github.com/andygrundman/Audio-Scan) doesn't mention them. But > there's some code hinting it should be available. > > Could someone, who's got some of those tags in his files, drill down to > the track'

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Classical music tagging in LMS 7.9 -- looking for hints, suggestions, and guidance

2018-02-09 Thread dolodobendan
Obyvatel wrote: > > I use for my Classical Recordings mostly these Tags: > ARTIST (for Composer) > That's sad. :confused: QLMS 7.9.1@1.06f (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.slimde

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-22 Thread dolodobendan
rmariger wrote: > > I suggest that the software be modified so that albums for which there > is an albumartist, the ARTIST tag varies, and does not have a tag > COMPILATION = 1, be catalogued under the albumartist and that the > squeezebox player display ARTIST-TITLE. The software should treat

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-23 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > The mere presence of an albumartist tag shouldn't mean something is a > comp or not I do not see this behavior on my system. Maybe you should check your tags and settings. QLMS 7.9.1@1.07.2 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-23 Thread dolodobendan
garym wrote: > The only possibility I'm aware of is one case: If one does NOT have > ALBUM ARTIST filled in *and* there is at least one track on the album > that has a differing artist or artists, LMS will treat that album as a > compilation album (even though there is no COMPILATION tag). That

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-23 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > I know, I wrote it. :) > > What I am saying, is absent any comp tags, server will always decide > something isn't a comp simply bc it also has albumartists tags. This is > just one example of erroneous assumptions the software makes at a > foundational level. Something isn't nece

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-25 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > It has nothing to do with my collection or yours. What I am saying in > this one particular example is that server starts off with a logical > fallacy, which once again is a file, if it has no comp tag=1, and it > does have albumartist tags, is by definition, not a comp. > > So ima

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-25 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > > As I said, and I stand by it 100%, determining that something is NOT a > comp just bc it has an albumartist tag present, (absent an explicit > comp=1 tag), IS a logical fallacy, a demonstrably false assumption. > > Why argue against something obvious? It's a design choice that g

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-25 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > it seems it works for most people? and you know this how? > > putting aside that this product has failed, it worked for audiophiles > who were willing to workaround issues. thats not most people, i assure > you. Because "i assure you"? As I said before and will repeat one last ti

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-27 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > absent an albumartist tag (or comp=0), server just assumes any CD with > an artist mismatch are ALL comps. that rarely is the desired outcome > for *all* those types of CDs. > > similarly, if they all have albumartist tags, server just assumes NONE > of them are comps, (assuming no

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-28 Thread dolodobendan
d6jg wrote: > I can't speak for Classical music as I don't have that much but > certainly my experience with popular music is that if the stuff is > tagged correctly in the first place then there are no issues. Inevitably > this means doing it carefully and not replying 100% on auto rippers / > t

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-28 Thread dolodobendan
d6jg wrote: > > My OCD also doesn't like the fact that LMS can sort by Album / Year but > then alphabetically so that if a band released two albums in the same > year they can end up being in the wrong order if the band in question > didn't have the foresight to name them in line with LMS's requ

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-02-28 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > > I upvote erlands patch to turn of VA logic , you do that in the > byggzilla btw. Thank you, I casted my vote. QLMS 7.9.1@1.07.2 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: http://forums.sl

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-03-01 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > Mherger has actually extended LMS to be easier for anyone to extend > ”aditional browse modes plugin” > Is just one thing that came about out off this. > > If i understod him correctly . If someone today wanted to write ”erland > like plugins” that changes how we browse and search

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-03-01 Thread dolodobendan
BJW wrote: > > it would be good if we could list all known tags [field values] server > already reads into the server, and make a list of all the ones we would > want added, be it for classical, ratings, what have you. Since my only strong opinion here is about how classical music is neglected,

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-03-02 Thread dolodobendan
DJanGo wrote: > > again its techie... but LibraryDemo is a very nice thing - my child > loves the things i do with that. I don't care about techie. :) Would you post your modifications here? Btw., what's the main difference between this library plugin and Additional Browse Modes? If both apply

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Compilation issues

2018-03-14 Thread dolodobendan
Mnyb wrote: > Yep , that it does . > > Btw there is another recent improvement in 7.9.1 free text search , you > will find your stuff And one to come, hopefully. :) (Right now, database IDs are scanned, too.) QLMS 7.9.1@1.07.4 (digimaster) / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Artist Sorting in wrong order - No hidden tag?

2018-07-02 Thread dolodobendan
- In mp3tag, add columns for any tag that could be responsible (artistsort, albumartist, album artist, artistsort etc.) - Load your library in mp3tag as suggested. - Filter your files (F3) with "artist HAS Toussaint" or "composer HAS ..." That should let you find the tracks responsible pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Multiple CD sets

2020-02-10 Thread dolodobendan
RonM wrote: > Is there a way to do this What's your setting for "Group Discs" (Settings / My Music)? QLMS 8.0.0@2.10.02 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.28 dedicated to me. :D / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profile: h

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Need help with Jazz Genre - Style tagging / organization

2020-05-09 Thread dolodobendan
Aren't multiple tags possible (without Custom Scan)? My classical tracks are ALL tagged "Classical" and most of them also have a second, some even a third or fourth tag: Classical;Cello Concertos;Piano Concertos;Violin Concertos That would be how I tag a triple concerto. Now it can be found in

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Need help with Jazz Genre - Style tagging / organization

2020-05-11 Thread dolodobendan
kappclark wrote: > When you tag them, what sw do u use ? I have been using MP3Tag, and it > says you need to use a \\ to create multiple genres ... I use mp3tag, too. Does it say that? From what I understand, it might be true or not completely true, depending on the actual wording: If you want

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Need help with Jazz Genre - Style tagging / organization

2020-05-11 Thread dolodobendan
Shozzer wrote: > I am not a jazz fan but you can have multiple genre tags and separate > them with \\ > > You could use Jazz as your main genre and then have another for Swing & > etc. > > You could look online at how Jazz is tagged or you can have your own > system. Your music, your categorie

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Need help with Jazz Genre - Style tagging / organization

2020-05-11 Thread dolodobendan
d6jg wrote: > That's not quite right. It just doesn't explain the difference. That's why I did that. And now you did, too. :p QLMS 8.0.0@2.20 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.30.1 / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 dolodobendan's Profil

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Need help with Jazz Genre - Style tagging / organization

2020-05-11 Thread dolodobendan
dolodobendan wrote: > Oh, I didn't see that. It was just the first answer, after all. :p d6jg wrote: > Sorry didn't see your post :) You and me both. :cool: QLMS 8.0.0@2.20 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.30.1 / QNA

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Question about Classical Tags

2020-05-24 Thread dolodobendan
Apesbrain wrote: > For years I've used the ARTIST tag to capture information about the > ensemble, typically of the form Soloist/Orchestra/Conductor. This has > worked well, but sometimes causes problems with phone apps which don't > display the information I'd prefer to see. I'm thinking of a

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] What is the use of COMPILATION tag with classical music?

2021-02-18 Thread dolodobendan
Apesbrain wrote: > It's not uncommon for a classical album to feature compositions by > multiple composers. Out of habit I've been tagging these COMPILATION=1, > but now I'm wondering whether there is any sense to this. Is there any > use case with LMS where a COMPILATION tag on classical musi

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] What is the use of COMPILATION tag with classical music?

2021-03-28 Thread dolodobendan
RonM wrote: > > > 33496 > > My favorite in this category (actually the only one I ever listen to) is > the amusingly titled "Pachelbel's Greatest Hit", which is a multitude of > takes on the iconic Canon in D. It includes a standard version by > Festival Strings Lucerne, one on traditional in

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] What is the use of COMPILATION tag with classical music?

2021-03-28 Thread dolodobendan
d6jg wrote: > I’m with Ron. That’s as good an example of a compilation as you’ll find. Okay. What about a disc with two recordings of Beethoven's fifth? QLMS 8.2@2.21 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.30.1 / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] What is the use of COMPILATION tag with classical music?

2021-03-29 Thread dolodobendan
d6jg wrote: > Depends who its by Defining the "who" can be VERY tricky in classical music (conductor, orchestra, soloist(s), principal violin, chorus master, etc.). It's a dark path into madness. :) QLMS 8.2@2.21 x64 (digimaster) with perl 5.30.1 / QNAP 469L QTS 4.3.4 ---