Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Johannes Linke
Thomas Martitz wrote: I'm not convinced we need 4. 3) and 4) sound like they could be 1 category (I don't even think targets that would be under your 4) need to be mentioned at all as classified target). And then we're at the same classification we have now. We might consider renaming the

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Johannes Linke
PS: I suggest changing stable to complete or something else... If you see stable and usable, you think usable = unstable, but unstable is often = unusable... Imo the following classifications would be best: Complete - well, complete. This port offers everything Rockbox can offer. Usable -

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 12.10.2009 12:51, Johannes Linke wrote: PS: I suggest changing stable to complete or something else... If you see stable and usable, you think usable = unstable, but unstable is often = unusable... Imo the following classifications would be best: Complete - well, complete. This port

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Johannes Linke
Thomas Martitz schrieb: On 12.10.2009 12:51, Johannes Linke wrote: PS: I suggest changing stable to complete or something else... If you see stable and usable, you think usable = unstable, but unstable is often = unusable... Imo the following classifications would be best: Complete - well,

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Rob Purchase
On 12/10/2009 11:51, Johannes Linke wrote: PS: I suggest changing stable to complete or something else... If you see stable and usable, you think usable = unstable, but unstable is often = unusable... Imo the following classifications would be best: Complete - well, complete. This port

RE: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Mike Giacomelli
What I particularly dislike in the current classification is the term unusable, which sounds far too negative IMO. For example the Gigabeat S is far from unusable once you get past the hurdle of getting Rockbox onto it. Just my two cents. The S is basically unusable with the

RE: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Mike Giacomelli
4ad37204.2090...@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I like Dave's suggestion=2C but maybe we are getting too hung up on the implications of the words usable=2C unstable etc. An idea touted in the

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread Mohamed Tarek
Rob Purchase wrote : My suggestion would be: Gold - top tier ports, as per Dave's email (eg. iArchos, iHP, X5, F/X etc) Silver - mature ports, but with some flaws (eg. iPods, maybe Sansa AMS, etc) Bronze - working ports, but with significant flaws (eg. Gigabeat S, D2, m:Robe 500,

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-12 Thread David Hall
Has anyone looked at how handhelds.org does (did) their grading system? Quite elegant, IMHO. http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH4100 --soap

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Rafaël Carré
Le 12/10/2009 00:07, Dave Chapman a écrit : Thoughts? Or am I going round in circles (apologies if I haven't read all previous discussions on this issue...) Interesting, I fully agree with your proposal. The top-tier category would include targets where the OF is not needed at all anymore.

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Paul Louden
Rafaël Carré wrote: The top-tier category would include targets where the OF is not needed at all anymore. This is going to rule out some players forever (for example, we can never support DRM and possibly some proprietary audio or video formats). Maybe instead we should have a list of

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 12.10.2009 00:07, Dave Chapman wrote: All, I've been thinking a bit about the target classifications, and have come to the conclusion that we now have a large number of ports, in a wide variety of states of completion, that the current 3 categories is not enough. I would like to see the

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Paul Louden
Rafaël Carré wrote: To me it would mean anything but video DSP, DRM crypto units and dock connector (for devices plugged to iPods), does that sound correct ? That's more or less fine. I'm not really able to think about the details right now. It's just not good to say or even suggest that

Re: Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Rafaël Carré
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:28:15 -0500 Paul Louden paulthen...@gmail.com wrote: Rafaël Carré wrote: The top-tier category would include targets where the OF is not needed at all anymore. This is going to rule out some players forever (for example, we can never support DRM and possibly