Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Björn Stenberg
Björn Stenberg wrote: > It still feels like a "Rockbox emulator", rather than a full-blown android > music player app. After I posted this, Hayden Pearce urged me to try his cabbie theme modification (FS#12254). And after seeing that, I am much more optimistic than when I wrote the above. There

Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Sevakis
- Original Message - From: Hayden Pearce To: Rockbox development Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version) It's ugly because my theme work isn't committed yet ;) [Saint] It's a bit clunky in the w

Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Hayden Pearce
: Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version) > > > > Furthermore, every guy I installed Rockbox for liked it. The UI isn't as > horrible > > as some people think and the features are just awesome, so I don't see > why > > we should

Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Hayden Pearce
On 26 September 2011 23:05, Amaury Pouly wrote: > Whether immature or not (fwiw, I disagree), we don't even have current >> builds do promote it to unstable, for a broader audience and perhaps new >> contributors. > > I agree with this point: if we don't provide a RaaA build, there will > likely

RE: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread bryan.childs
> -Original Message- > From: rockbox-dev-boun...@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-dev- > boun...@cool.haxx.se] On Behalf Of Thomas Martitz > Sent: 26 September 2011 10:44 > To: Rockbox development > Subject: Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version) >

Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Amaury Pouly
> > Whether immature or not (fwiw, I disagree), we don't even have current > builds do promote it to unstable, for a broader audience and perhaps new > contributors. I agree with this point: if we don't provide a RaaA build, there will likely be too few people testing it to get real feedback. Furt

Re: Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Thomas Martitz
Am Mo, 26.09.2011, 11:22 schrieb Björn Stenberg: > Thomas Martitz wrote: >> Then 4.0 is vaporware. At least I see no movement towards an RaaA >> release. >> It still needs actions from the swedes (current build signing, market >> account). > > I disagree. It is not the paperwork that is holding the

Releasing the android app (was: The next release version)

2011-09-26 Thread Björn Stenberg
Thomas Martitz wrote: > Then 4.0 is vaporware. At least I see no movement towards an RaaA release. > It still needs actions from the swedes (current build signing, market > account). I disagree. It is not the paperwork that is holding the android app from the Market. It is the fact that it is sti

Re: The next release version

2011-09-26 Thread Thomas Martitz
Am Mo, 26.09.2011, 10:25 schrieb Marcin Bukat: > I also tend to think upcoming release should be 3.10. I think 4.0 > should be reserved for RaaA. Maybe RaaA is not revolution from the > technical point o view but it may have HUGE impact on our userbase. > > Marcin > Then 4.0 is vaporware. At least

RE: The next release version

2011-09-26 Thread bryan.childs
> Alex Parker wrote: > > a) 3.10 or 4.0 > > b) why? > > a) 3.10 > b) Because the user-facing changes are not big enough to warrant 4.0. > +1 +1 Bryan Childs UC Consultant RBS Global Banking & Markets Bankside 2 & 3, 90-100 Southwark Street, London, SE1 0SW, GB Office: +44 20 3361 2331 | Mo

Re: The next release version

2011-09-26 Thread Marcin Bukat
I also tend to think upcoming release should be 3.10. I think 4.0 should be reserved for RaaA. Maybe RaaA is not revolution from the technical point o view but it may have HUGE impact on our userbase. Marcin

Re: The next release version

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Hooper
On Sep 26, 2011 9:20 AM, "Björn Stenberg" wrote: > > Alex Parker wrote: > > a) 3.10 or 4.0 > > b) why? > > a) 3.10 > b) Because the user-facing changes are not big enough to warrant 4.0. I agree with that too. Even the playback rework for voicing is, in my opinion, not a major new architectural c

Re: The next release version

2011-09-26 Thread Björn Stenberg
Alex Parker wrote: > a) 3.10 or 4.0 > b) why? a) 3.10 b) Because the user-facing changes are not big enough to warrant 4.0. -- Björn

Re: The next release version

2011-09-25 Thread Michael Sevakis
- Original Message - From: "Alex Parker" To: "Michael Sevakis" ; "Rockbox development" Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:44 PM Subject: Re: The next release version I wasn't actually talking about delaying the release at all, just whether it sh

Re: The next release version

2011-09-25 Thread Alex Parker
On 25/09/11 23:50, Michael Sevakis wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Giacomelli To: rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:58 PM Subject: RE: The next release version Would prefer to stay at 3.x until we're ready to release the app on the android market.

Re: The next release version

2011-09-25 Thread Michael Sevakis
- Original Message - From: Mike Giacomelli To: rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:58 PM Subject: RE: The next release version Would prefer to stay at 3.x until we're ready to release the app on the android market. Mike Things seem awfully shaken up righ

RE: The next release version

2011-09-25 Thread Mike Giacomelli
2011/9/25 Jonas Häggqvist : > > +1. 2.x->3.x was when SWCODEC was added (and initially 3.0 was planned for > > Archos+Iriver Hxx0 only IIRC). I'd say the addition of (releasable) Raaa is > > on the same level. > > > Would prefer to stay at 3.x until we're ready to release the app on the androi

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Jonathan Gordon
2011/9/25 Jonas Häggqvist : > +1. 2.x->3.x was when SWCODEC was added (and initially 3.0 was planned for > Archos+Iriver Hxx0 only IIRC). I'd say the addition of (releasable) Raaa is > on the same level. > >From a technical point of view, RaaA is a pretty uninteresting target. SWCODEC brought an e

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
On 25-09-2011 02:20, Paul Louden wrote: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Gordon wrote: 3 - no other target has caused a major bump so why should android be different? I do agree 3.10 looks a bit funny. But on the issue of Android being different from the other targets, it's more

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Paul Louden
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Gordon wrote: >     3 - no other target has caused a major bump so why should android > be different? I do agree 3.10 looks a bit funny. But on the issue of Android being different from the other targets, it's more the transition from "Rockbox as a firmwa

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Jonathan Gordon
pretty arbitrary anyway On 25 September 2011 09:59, Alex Parker wrote: > Hi guys, > > So the next release is due towards the end of October, and in the past there > has been some discussion as to whether the version number should be 3.10 or > 4.0.  Myself I lean towards 3.10, and keep

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Jonathan Gordon
a) 3.10 b) because history says that whatever I suggest will be outright rejected On 25 September 2011 09:59, Alex Parker wrote: > Hi guys, > > So the next release is due towards the end of October, and in the past there > has been some discussion as to whether the version number sh

Re: The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Paul Louden
I think we're still at 3.X at the moment too. I don't think this version brings anything worth increasing the major version number.

The next release version

2011-09-24 Thread Alex Parker
Hi guys, So the next release is due towards the end of October, and in the past there has been some discussion as to whether the version number should be 3.10 or 4.0. Myself I lean towards 3.10, and keeping 4.0 for e.g. an Android release but I am not too determined either way. What do

Re: The next release

2010-10-12 Thread Paul Louden
On 10/12/2010 9:28 AM, Marcin Bukat wrote: That's exactly my point - version number is to place particular release in some chronological order nothing more. This is patently not true. If chronological order were the only purpose, there would be no reason not to just use the release date, muc

Re: The next release

2010-10-12 Thread Marcin Bukat
2010/10/12 Paul Louden : > Meanwhile, if we go from 3.7 to 3.8 to > 3.9 to 4.0 to 4.1, the version number no longer communicates anything but > sequence and we may as well have just used the SVN revision of the release > in the first place. That's exactly my point - version number is to place part

Re: The next release

2010-10-12 Thread Paul Louden
On 10/12/2010 3:02 AM, Marcin Bukat wrote: I don't like discontinuity in release numbering. For me such practice is pure marketing. Marcin Bukat Release numbering is pure marketing in the first place. "3.7" doesn't mean anything useful other than "it came after any number lower than this."

Re: The next release

2010-10-12 Thread Marcin Bukat
2010/10/12 Frank Gevaerts : > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:47:06PM +0100, Dave Chapman wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The "Release 3.7, freeze on Monday" thread seems to have been hijacked, >> so to bring the subject up again, are we freezing now? > > I think we should, yes. > >> I'm also trying to catch up on

Re: The next release

2010-10-11 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:47:06PM +0100, Dave Chapman wrote: > Hi, > > The "Release 3.7, freeze on Monday" thread seems to have been hijacked, > so to bring the subject up again, are we freezing now? I think we should, yes. > I'm also trying to catch up on Rockbox developments over the past fe

The next release

2010-10-11 Thread Dave Chapman
Hi, The "Release 3.7, freeze on Monday" thread seems to have been hijacked, so to bring the subject up again, are we freezing now? I'm also trying to catch up on Rockbox developments over the past few months, and am wondering if the theme breakage is a reason to bump to 4.0? I've read the e