Mon Aug 19 2019 09:06:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit-ng
WebCit-NG is still the intended direction of the project. I want to retire WebCit Classic. It's just a matter of time. By "citadel-thunderbird interactivity" I assume you mean CalDAV. Yes, that's already in
WebCit-NG is still the intended direction of the project. I want to retire
WebCit Classic. It's just a matter of time.
By "citadel-thunderbird interactivity" I assume you mean CalDAV. Yes, that's
already in WebCit-
NG and it already works. So it'll be there out of the gate. Remember
What about things such as shared calendars and address books?
I kinda think I reported long ago that these were not working properly on current Webcit (ok, maybe just calendar for now...).With another quick look I remembered what's not working in the calendar: the attendees for when creating new
Nearly all of my long term plans for Citadel *depend* on webcit-ng.
Specifically,
all of the ActivityPub (mastodon compatibility) and other global plans are
going to require the webcit-ng engine in order to work at all.
It's happening -- I just keep finding other things that need to be fixed
Er, by chance still any plans for Webcit-ng?I'm still willing to contribute someway, in non-dev stuff -cause I'm no dev-...
Thanks
It goes in fits and spurts. Once I get started on something it tends to happen
fast. Most of the things I've been working on have been internal improvements
that don't show up in the user interface.
Mon May 27 2019 19:33:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit-ng
It means if you're really interested and willing to commit to the work, I'll figure out a way to get you access to the server so you can help out.
Thanks IG.
Just hope you are able to find another spare
It means if you're really interested and willing to commit to the work, I'll
figure out a way to get you access to the server so you can help out.
Tue Apr 23 2019 08:45:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit-ng
Yes, we'd love some more help. Just need to figure out how to get you into the system.
Mm, may I ask what this meant?Thanks again.
I only Imagine what will you do if you where at full time developer.
Regards!
On 4/29/19 1:35 PM, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
Nope! I'm an infrastructure architect for a data center company. I write
software in my spare time.
Nope! I'm an infrastructure architect for a data center company. I write
software in my spare time.
Good work mr IG.
("not a professional software developer"?)...
"march mode" code is in progress. It's proving out the "REST API + JavaScript
UI" model pretty well. (Yes I know, I'm the last person in the known universe
to start doing this but ... remember I'm not a professional software developer.)
It reminds me of the old days, when we used to disagree
Today I'm poking around in webcit-ng and adding some of the "goto next room"
code. I'm thinking that we could put up a version of UNCENSORED! that uses
this code once we get some of the basic message board stuff usable.
Yes, we'd love some more help. Just need to figure out how to get you into
the system.
Sounds like a documentation-type job...
If it indirectly benefits Webcit even a bit, would you allow one more hand for the job by chance?I could also test and check which pages from current Citadel website are outdated, and perhaps fix...
Also, wondering if you are planning to add SSL/TLS certifi
Actually the other big deal going on right now is redoing the project web
site.
http://wwwdev.citadel.org
The new site removes DokuWiki and is being built with W3CSS, the exact same
framework that's being used for WebCit-NG. Instead of being delivered via
a content management system, the
Thanks again mr IG.
So, IIUC, you're also prioritizing other stuff equally important to Citadel project.
So basically Webcit-ng will still be in the queue for the time being yet still considered, right?
As for me, even when I already started to read -right now the of databases-, it'd take me a b
There are a couple of things I need to work on next. webcit-ng is the big
one, but I've also been making a lot of changes in the background over the
last couple of months. These changes don't add new features, but they are
moving the remaining standalone data files into the database. netconfigs,
What part of the code?
I want to get this code into your hands, even if it's only a skeleton at this
point. It's a very good framework and when I get around to fleshing it out,
it's going to be a much nicer base than the current WebCit code. I think
what I'm going to do is offer it as a technology preview in the next r
Thanks again mr IG.Mm... wouldn't I actually have a more or less "complete" development environment in the server already, thanks to Easy Install itself?AFAIU, only differences would be, I'm using git clone instead of the tar-ed files, and the git-cloned sources ship more individual components (w
Hmm. I'm trying to think of an easy way to make webcit-ng available without requiring a complete build environment.
Maybe a hidden option in Easy Install that will make it download and build that component?
Running in test server, which was installed from scratch a month ago with Centos 7.6 and latest Citadel through Easy Install.I do run Easy install script with certain frequency for update.
Are you building on the same server that runs your production Citadel system,
or a different one? The reason I am asking is because your production system
will already have the dependencies set up, especially if you ran Easy Install.
I apologize beforehand for this kind of question if it's a bit annoying; truth is this would be my very first time building something from source...
As mentioned, I git-cloned the whole Citadel tree (branch Master, since I didn't specify any branch to git).Now, I thought I could build only the we
webcit-ng uses conf-IG-ure instead of GNU Autotools, so it doesn't need a
bootstrap script. Just run the configure script and it will take care of
itself.
I cloned from git, and noticed, as Citadel website says, that there's no configure script; it must be generated.
I already checked I have GNU Autoconf and Libtools, but thing is, webcit-ng directory doesn't have any bootstrap script.Could/should I use the one in webcit directory?
And for webcit-n
Sure, you could run it on the same machine that runs your Citadel server,
just build it in another directory and run it on another port. You'll have
to build it from the git repository. It doesn't require any special privileges
and it won't interfere with your production system.
Is it possible to have both at same time, and in someway choosing either Webcit or Webcit-ng?
Or one does replace/overwrites the other?
If you're interested, you should get a webcit-ng running, just to check out
the build system and the progress made on it so far. It should build cleanly,
pretty much anywhere, and you can point it at any existing Citadel server
(such as your own production system, or even uncensored.citadel.org) w
So far I like ctdlsh, but like you said, it is not mature. I tried export,
which took a long time, but for the life of me, I cannot find the resulting
file.
> Fri Apr 07 2017 04:04:51 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
>Subject: Re: WebCit and CitServer upgrade
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>>Does ctdlsh
Good to hear... are the commands documented anywhere other than in the code?
Also, I just fired up webcit-ng and am staring at a 404 error from
uncensored. I noticed at one point you had w3.css somewhat in place, but it
seems that is gone...
> Fri Apr 07 2017 04:04:51 PM EDT from IGnati
>Does ctdlsh take standard commands as if sent through sendcommand?
No, ctdlsh takes ctdlsh commands. It communicates to the server through
the admin socket, just like sendcommand does, but where sendcommand is intended
to give you a way to speak to Citadel in its own language, ctdlsh is
Does ctdlsh take standard commands as if sent through sendcommand?
> Tue Feb 14 2017 11:24:16 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
>Subject: Re: WebCit and CitServer upgrade
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>Who was asking about ctdlsh? I made an important change to it tonight.
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>You can now enter a single ctdl
That is great! I realized that was my issue when I tried to compile against
the git is that I still was following the webcit-ng branch, so the compile
failed.
It looks like it worked this time. Will let you know if there are issues.
> Sun Mar 12 2017 12:34:44 AM EST from IGnatius T Fooba
I was asking about ctdlsh... and that is very encouraging! I am currently
having to use sendcommand in my scripts when I add a new user.
Can you make a section where you document the current abilities of it? Also,
it would be nice to have the server configuration all in one place and
document wh
Who was asking about ctdlsh? I made an important change to it tonight.
You can now enter a single ctdlsh command on the command line, which makes
ctdlsh usable in scripts. (Basically I was taking a cue from virsh, which
I think was my inspiration for ctdlsh in the first place.)
So y
Wed Feb 08 2017 12:21:22 PM EST from bennabiy @ Uncensored Subject: Re: WebCit and CitServer upgrade
As to the clobbering, I think you are right. The login hook seems to be the culprit. I would be fine with it if I could map LDAP attributes to fields on the server without having to recompile
I use OpenLDAP on Debian and Ubuntu primarily, so standard rfc2307.
I do not have the citadel.schema or rfc2739.schema in place.
As to the clobbering, I think you are right. The login hook seems to be the
culprit. I would be fine with it if I could map LDAP attributes to fields on
the server
Regarding the vCard update issue:
Ctdl_LDAP_to_vCard() appears to be the function that painstakingly copies
LDAP attributes into a user's vCard. "git blame" has my name and a 2014
timestamp
on it, but I don't remember writing it ... maybe it was submitted as a patch
and I put it in.
That was my thought as well. It would be good to make clear API documentation for it.
What is the current state of ctdlsh?
For the webmin module, check out what we're doing with ctdlsh. The eventual
goal is for that to be a one-stop-shop for doing server configuration without
having to actually log in to Citadel. A webmin module (or any other type
of tool) could theoretically make calls to ctdsh to do its work.
>From IGnatius T Foobar in email with my answers and comments interspersed
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>*/Let's have this conversation in the Citadel Development room. I like
>what you're saying and we should work on it./*
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>*/If I understand you correctly, you're talking about the way Citadel
>populates a user's
Many thanks for the good work.
to ease the deployment, can you re-send your mails with the diffs as an attachment?
The documentation for the following option is missing in webcit/READMEtxt:
-h home_dir-d-D path-T val
The default http_port is 2000 and not 80 as mentioned.
Ooops. Gotta remove those command line options.
citserver and webcit both use syslog() now.
Each program is also set up so that if run in the foreground, it will log
to stderr as well.
>The create new room page in webcit is broken on master HEAD
>The main form to provide room details is permanently scrolled to the
>bottom and has no scroll-bars, so I can't see anything above the "Type
>of room" and so can't enter these details.
Fixed. There was a missing tag i
this is not just about the editor; its about how vcards are printed in general...
like the address book popup... and so on.
Don't spend too much time on the vCard editor. I will probably rewrite it
in the not too distant future.
Sure, there's a ton of that kind of work that needs to be done. I do it when
I'm already in there somewhere and notice little things that need adjusting,
but having someone around to focus on it would be great.
Sat Sep 04 2010 9:08:58 am EDT EDT from samjam @ Uncensored Subject: webcit stopped display message list
I'm investigating why webcit has stopped displaying the message list.
The http request:
https://mail.liddicott.net/webcit/roommsgs?room=Mail&startmsg=0&stopmsg=-1
now completes fine (a
>Hey you think we can apply this to WebCit to get it to recognize primary
>email address when editing vCards made with Sync Kolab?
Hang tight, I'll do this the right way
>Fri Jan 23 2009 22:50:21 EST from IGnatius T foo...@uncnsrd (Uncensored)
>Subject: Re: webcit
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>>and 2. wasn't "blog" going to be a pulldown option?
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> Not this version. That's going to be one of the new features of Citadel in
>2009. First we've got to finish what we've already s
>and 2. wasn't "blog" going to be a pulldown option?
Not this version. That's going to be one of the new features of Citadel
in 2009. First we've got to finish what we've already started.
>Sa Okt 18 2008 10:52:23 EDT von directr...@uncnsrd
>Betreff: Webcit path for Sitewide/Access/HostAuth
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> Just a little patch that makes the "Enable host based authentication
>mode" config option show the right value (its showing the inverted value
>now).
Directic, i'e applied the patch acci
No no, you were right. I selected the wrong diff. Sorry about that. I
attached the new one.
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>Sat Oct 18 2008 13:25:31 EDT from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>Sa Okt 18 2008 10:52:23 EDT von [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Betreff: Webcit path for Sitewide/Access/HostAuth
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>Sa Okt 18 2008 10:52:23 EDT von [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Betreff: Webcit path for Sitewide/Access/HostAuth
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> Just a little patch that makes the "Enable host based authentication
>mode" config option show the right value (its showing the inverted value
>now).
hm, didn't I apply that with r6679 ye
If it says it doesn't support those things then it didn't detect libical
during configuration.
Matt: I like what I see. Clearly you have better web-fu than I do. :)
Would you be willing to start folding your changes into the main SVN
tree?
I'm quite interested in this lightweight XML parser. I don't plan to
begin parsing PROPFIND requests unless I find that the current met
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