Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS - Take III

2013-01-13 Thread J. C. Jones
-John From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Conan Kudo (???.???) Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:34 PM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS - Take III So if I understand this

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-13 Thread Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO
See my last mail De : ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de Timo Kreuzer Envoyé : samedi 12 janvier 2013 22:19 À : ReactOS Development List Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS *cough* :D Am 12.01.2013 14:47

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-13 Thread Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO
it would be a “solution” to the problem. Hermès De : ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de J. C. Jones Envoyé : samedi 12 janvier 2013 20:09 À : 'ReactOS Development List' Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of Re

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS - Take III

2013-01-13 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
So if I understand this correctly, the solution file will use vcxproj files generated by CMake to create a truly hierarchical Visual Studio development and build environment suitable for new developers who are only familiar with Visual Studio and using the IDE for development? On Sat, Jan 12, 2013

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS - Take II

2013-01-12 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 12.01.2013 09:11, schrieb J. C. Jones: The fact that it is not possible to build, say, just *applications*, or just *drivers*, without hunting-and-pecking projects in the *Solution Workspace*, is related to problem No, it's just a missing cmake command to generate a solution file for applica

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-12 Thread Timo Kreuzer
-dev-boun...@reactos.org] *De la part de* Ged Murphy *Envoyé :* samedi 12 janvier 2013 01:51 *À :* ReactOS List *Objet :* Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Having a solution for each project is like having a separate build system for each project. You could probably

[ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS - Take III

2013-01-12 Thread J. C. Jones
Hi All, I had quick chat with Amine and others, and for the time being, I will pick up where I let off in creating a Visual Studio ReactOS.sln with the following features: 1. A single ReactOS.sln file that is interchangeable between Visual Studio 2010 and Visual Studio 2012. 2. A sin

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-12 Thread J. C. Jones
s-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de Ged Murphy Envoyé : samedi 12 janvier 2013 01:51 À : ReactOS List Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Having a solution for each project is like having a separate build system for each project. You could probably break it down to

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-12 Thread Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO
: samedi 12 janvier 2013 01:51 À : ReactOS List Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Having a solution for each project is like having a separate build system for each project. You could probably break it down to between 5-10 solutions, having one for each major area

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-12 Thread J. C. Jones
tal to the advantages of using VS. From: Timo Kreuzer Reply-To: ReactOS List Date: Friday, 11 January 2013 21:16 To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Am 11.01.2013 06:48, schrieb BinSys: I suggest a sln file in each directory. Only

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-11 Thread J. C. Jones
, January 11, 2013 3:17 PM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Am 11.01.2013 06:48, schrieb BinSys: I suggest a sln file in each directory. Only a sln file is too big, very slow to load. I agree, but before changing this, we should

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-11 Thread Ged Murphy
: ReactOS List Date: Friday, 11 January 2013 21:16 To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Am 11.01.2013 06:48, schrieb BinSys: > > > I suggest a sln file in each directory. Only a sln file is too big, very slow

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-11 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 11.01.2013 06:48, schrieb BinSys: I suggest a sln file in each directory. Only a sln file is too big, very slow to load. I agree, but before changing this, we should measure a possible performance impact on the configure operation. (We are talking about generating a few hundred solution fi

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-11 Thread Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO
mès - De : ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de J. C. Jones Envoyé : vendredi 11 janvier 2013 00:01 À : 'ReactOS Development List' Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Hi All, I wanted to give an

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-11 Thread BinSys
13 6:11 AM To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS To speed up the process for you, I'd recommend you get a copy of RosBE and run 'make msvc10' This will generate all the project files and a solution for for you, in a mostly bu

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-10 Thread J. C. Jones
more if you like. -John From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Ged Murphy Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:11 AM To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS To speed up the process for you, I&#

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-06 Thread J. C. Jones
j files should lay down a good base for you to work with. Ged. From: "J. C. Jones" Reply-To: ReactOS List Date: Friday, 4 January 2013 19:30 To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Ok. VS2010+ it will be. J I will do

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-06 Thread Ged Murphy
base for you to work with. Ged. From: "J. C. Jones" Reply-To: ReactOS List Date: Friday, 4 January 2013 19:30 To: ReactOS List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Ok. VS2010+ it will be. J I will do a quick review to make sure t

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-04 Thread 潘宇
Cheers. From:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Aleksey Bragin Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:25 PM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS It's up to you of course, but VS20

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-04 Thread J. C. Jones
:25 PM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS It's up to you of course, but VS2008 is too dated, and VS2012 is "too new" indeed, so many devs will cry about incompatible project files. So, VS2010 would be the ideal b

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-04 Thread Aleksey Bragin
nd I am definitely open to ideas on this. *Sent:*Friday, January 04, 2013 3:43 AM *To:* 'ReactOS Development List' *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS VS2008? Shouldn't you be doing this in 2012, especially considering the much improved

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-04 Thread J. C. Jones
ould change it, and I am definitely open to ideas on this. Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:43 AM To: 'ReactOS Development List' Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS VS2008? Shouldn't you be doing this in 2012, especially considering the mu

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-04 Thread Ged Murphy
-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of J. C. Jones Sent: 04 January 2013 02:40 To: 'ReactOS Development List' Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Yes, it is one thing to create a project file, which takes 15-30 seconds. It is another thing to get th

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-03 Thread J. C. Jones
. 2. Hit Build. 3. Run calc in an edit- compile-debug loop. From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Timo Kreuzer Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:18 AM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-03 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 02.01.2013 19:04, schrieb J. C. Jones: It would take 2-3 hours to create VS projects for all user-mode modules. No offence, but I think you are highly underestimating the magnitude of our codebase. We are talking about several hundred modules. And you probably also overestimate the pace at w

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-02 Thread J. C. Jones
Yes, it has to be for various logistical reasons. From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Conan Kudo (???.???) Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:46 PM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-02 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] *On > Behalf Of *Timo Kreuzer > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:00 AM > > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS > > > ** ** > > Am 02.01.2

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-02 Thread J. C. Jones
g] On Behalf Of Timo Kreuzer Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:00 AM To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS Am 02.01.2013 11:40, schrieb Aleksey Bragin: I will quote the valuable parts of the chat for those who missed it: Answerin

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-02 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 02.01.2013 11:40, schrieb Aleksey Bragin: I will quote the valuable parts of the chat for those who missed it: Answering the question of "How?" [02:41] <+BlackRabbit> 1. Take the entire tree [02:41] <+BlackRabbit> 2. Build projects that follow the tree exactly, using directory names, accordi

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-02 Thread Aleksey Bragin
be clear, we are not changing from cmake as the main build process. -JC *From:*ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] *On Behalf Of *Conan Kudo (???·???) *Sent:* Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:59 PM *To:* ReactOS Development List *Subject:* Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-01 Thread J. C. Jones
Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS What exactly is the problem here? That prebuilt VS solutions aren't included instead of requiring CMake to generate them first, or what? On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM, J. C. Jones wrote: Hi All,

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-01 Thread Aleksey Bragin
Hi JC, I highly appreciate your non-biased view on the matter. However, I'm afraid I'll have to justify why this is being done this way. In theory and in practice, it's doable. An effort may be done to create a full set of build steps so that ReactOS builds by pressing Ctrl+Shift+B. But think

Re: [ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-01 Thread ニール・ゴンパ
What exactly is the problem here? That prebuilt VS solutions aren't included instead of requiring CMake to generate them first, or what? On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM, J. C. Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > Some of you might have seen my recent on the post regarding the build > process: > http://www.

[ros-dev] Notice Of Intent - Visual Studio Build of ReactOS

2013-01-01 Thread J. C. Jones
Hi All, Some of you might have seen my recent on the post regarding the build process: http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12240&start=15 As I mentioned, it would help greatly to lower the barrier-to-entry to less-experienced developers, as well as more experienced developers who mig