Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: On 18.11.2008 00:33, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: snip IIRC someone said earlier that some people wouldn't contribute to RPMFusion if it was in any way associated with distribution of libdvdcss, but never mentioned any names or what these contributors would

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 01:12, مؤيد السعدي wrote: why we don't pack suns' java like them ? is there any legal issue ? We build from source. this includes the jdk. hello! I'm talking about nonfree branch of rpmfusion that's why I'm not posting to fedora-devel rpmfusion contains

[Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread RPM Fusion Bugzilla
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124 --- Comment #19 from Sergio Pascual [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-11-18 11:18:05 --- Well, this pgplot is patched to look for pgxwin_server in /usr/libexec/pgplot Your program is compiled statically or dynamically? -- Configure bugmail:

Re: latest kernel's gspca-kmod missing

2008-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Farkas Levente wrote: any change to skype work out of box without this workaround in the near future? You can report the problem to Skype and ask them to fix it. Rahul

Re: latest kernel's gspca-kmod missing

2008-11-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Farkas Levente wrote: Hans de Goede wrote: Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 21:31 +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: the gspca-kmod missing for the latest kernel. it'd be useful for everybody who has webcam. # rpm -qpl

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread manuel wolfshant
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: AFAIK Sun's JDK is (almost) the same as OpenJDK. almost but not identical. A colleague of mine cannot use Yahoo Games with openjdk-plugin from EPEL, while it works without problems with Sun's (rebuilt by me using jpackage.org

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Richard Körber
Hi! I thought we have sorted that out. Do we really have to go through this discussion again? Just ignore that issue. We should satisfy the majority's needs, and the majority of Fedora users (obviously) needs DVD playback (as well as other patents/crypto stuff). If that guy(s) stops

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:03 PM, manuel wolfshant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: AFAIK Sun's JDK is (almost) the same as OpenJDK. almost but not identical. A colleague of mine cannot use Yahoo Games with openjdk-plugin from EPEL, while it works without

Re: [Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.11.2008 13:04, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:07:05 +0100, RPM Fusion Bugzilla wrote: --- Comment #18 from Joachim Frieben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-11-18 11:07:04 --- Since there is no component pgplot in Bugzilla yet, let me add a current issue here: Then somebody fix

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Andreas Thienemann
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Sure, the latter is a bit more complicated, but imho it's the right thing to do, especially as the user might do something that is illegal in his country. I do not consider it our job to prevent people doing illegal acts. Furthermore, the

Re: [Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.11.2008 13:19, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: On 18.11.2008 13:04, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:07:05 +0100, RPM Fusion Bugzilla wrote: --- Comment #18 from Joachim Frieben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-11-18 11:07:04 --- Since there is no component pgplot in Bugzilla yet, let me

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Andreas Thienemann
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Hans de Goede wrote: Also this seems to be an ever sliding issue, first we would ship it despite the concerns of a few, then you changed your mind and I and others reluctantly agreed, but we also agreed we would come up with some seamless integration solution. And

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread Hans de Goede
manuel wolfshant wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: AFAIK Sun's JDK is (almost) the same as OpenJDK. almost but not identical. A colleague of mine cannot use Yahoo Games with openjdk-plugin from EPEL, while it works without problems with Sun's (rebuilt by me using jpackage.org

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2008/11/18 Andreas Thienemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Sure, the latter is a bit more complicated, but imho it's the right thing to do, especially as the user might do something that is illegal in his country. I do not consider it our job to

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2008/11/18 Richard Körber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just ignore that issue. We should satisfy the majority's needs, and the majority of Fedora users (obviously) needs DVD playback (as well as other patents/crypto stuff). If that guy(s) stops contributing - that's not a problem at all. We

Reducing the number of necessary repos with non-free software (was Re: the libdvdcss issue)

2008-11-18 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 13:27, Andreas Thienemann wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Hans de Goede wrote: [...] And Fedora Legal actually has cleared doing that (linking to rpmfusion from the wiki), this is something which still has to be implemented, but the permission is there.

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Andreas Thienemann
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Richard Körber wrote: For me it means that if RPMfusion is offering software that is illegal in Germany, I will stop blogging about it in fedorablog.de and remove the package lists from repowatch.fedorablog.de. You can blame me for being a sissy, but I see no other option

[Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread RPM Fusion Bugzilla
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124 --- Comment #20 from Joachim Frieben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-11-18 14:31:37 --- Looks like it doesn not work either way: a. All demo executables /usr/bin/pgdemo?* are not linked dynamically against the pgplot library. Yet, above error

Re: [Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.11.2008 14:42, Sergio Pascual wrote: My email is wrong. The line should be Fedora|pgplot|Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|| parsa - pasra Fixed. Cu thl On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18.11.2008

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.11.2008 14:38, Karel Volný wrote: To the people who are responsible for RPMfusion: Please make up your mind, and then make an official and irrevocable (!) commitment pro or contra libdvdcss. I second that ... but ... who is that? http://rpmfusion.org/ - SteeringCommittee

[Bug 124] Review request: pgplot - Graphic library for making simple scientific graphs

2008-11-18 Thread RPM Fusion Bugzilla
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124 Sergio Pascual [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Karel Volný
hi, To the people who are responsible for RPMfusion: Please make up your mind, and then make an official and irrevocable (!) commitment pro or contra libdvdcss. I second that ... but ... who is that? http://rpmfusion.org/ - SteeringCommittee http://rpmfusion.org/SteeringCommittee

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello Dejan! 2008/11/18 Dejan Lekic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am willing to maintain Portable.NET (or so-called the dotGNU project) packages. Portable.NET is an open-source, (L)GPL, implementation of the .NET 2.0 . I use my dotGNU RPMs quiet often and so far I haven't seen any problem with them.

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Hi, On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 16:00, Dejan Lekic wrote: [...] I am willing to maintain Portable.NET (or so-called the dotGNU project) packages. Portable.NET is an open-source, (L)GPL, implementation of the .NET 2.0 . I use my dotGNU RPMs quiet often and so far I haven't seen any problem

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Dejan Lekic
Hello Peter, frankly I did not think they would go into the main repository, at least not yet. If Fedora guys later on decide to put it there, I would not mind, naturally. :) I like the RPMFusion idea as I used all those repositories earlier, and I want to be part of it. Kind regards On Tue, Nov

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 16:12, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Peter Lemenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/18 Dejan Lekic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am willing to maintain Portable.NET (or so-called the dotGNU project) packages. Portable.NET is an open-source,

Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Dejan Lekic
Hello everybody, my name is Dejan Lekic and I am, among other things a core developer of the FLTK project (http://www.fltk.org). I am a 33 years old software engineer / system developer from Sweden/Serbia (born in Serbia). At the moment I am pursuing my second degree, this time in Computer

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: On 18.11.2008 11:12, Hans de Goede wrote: it is one of the repos which make up the new rpmfusion, also we want this to work seamlessly. Enabling a repository that ships libdvdcss automatically is nearly just as bad as shipping it directly in our repos (¹). It hence

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Dejan Lekic wrote: Hello everybody, my name is Dejan Lekic and I am, among other things a core developer of the FLTK project (http://www.fltk.org). ... I have some more RPMs that would be very interesting to be in rpmfusion, but, since I am new here, I thought it would be the best to begin

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello! 2008/11/18 Andreas Thienemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Sure, the latter is a bit more complicated, but imho it's the right thing to do, especially as the user might do something that is illegal in his country. I do not

freenode link (was Re: Hopefully a new member of the team0

2008-11-18 Thread Karel Volný
PS. do we have an IRC channel perhaps? We do. It's #rpmfusion on FreeNode. but the only page it is officially mentioned is http://rpmfusion.org/AnnounceRepository (I mean not on personal pages) it would fit nicely nearby the mailing lists link, but on the other hand it would not be too

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Andreas Thienemann
Hello Rex, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: [Not shipping something in order to prevent people from comitting legally questionable acts in their locale] I am swayed by that argument, but this is a special case. I'm still very concerned over issues around 1. fedora being able to

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 18.11.2008 15:43, Karel Volný wrote: To the people who are responsible for RPMfusion: Please make up your mind, and then make an official and irrevocable (!) commitment pro or contra libdvdcss. I second that ... but ... who is that? http://rpmfusion.org/ - SteeringCommittee

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Andreas Thienemann wrote: (wishlist/todo: create a FAQ on the wiki for this very issue, so we don't need to rehash/rediscuss it every few weeks). :) Problem is, it's not question which can be answered in a definite way. The FAQ should state *facts*, and the already-mentioned-many-times

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread مؤيد السعدي
We already ship java-1.6.0-openjdk and gcj. no this is not the same we we in fedora do ship java-1.6.0-openjdk and gcj we in rpmfusion don't so we are fine here

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dejan Lekic wrote: Hello Peter, frankly I did not think they would go into the main repository, at least not yet. If Fedora guys later on decide to put it there, I would not mind, naturally. :) I like the RPMFusion idea as I used all those repositories earlier, and I want to be part of it.

RPM Fusion (Fedora - free) Package Build Report 2008-11-18

2008-11-18 Thread rpmfusion-pkgs-report
Packages built and released for RPM Fusion (Fedora - free) development: 10 buildsys-build-rpmfusion-10-0.10 em8300-kmod-0.17.2-1.fc10.2 iscsitarget-kmod-0.4.15-41.svn147.fc10.7

RPM Fusion (Fedora - nonfree) Package Build Report 2008-11-18

2008-11-18 Thread rpmfusion-pkgs-report
Packages built and released for RPM Fusion (Fedora - nonfree) 8: 2 NEW broadcom-wl-5.10.27.6-3.fc8 : Common files for Broadcom 802.11 STA driver NEW wl-kmod-5.10.27.6-5.fc8 : Kernel module for broadcom wireless devices

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread مؤيد السعدي
for those who suggested that it could be a bug in Sarf or openjdk I don't care because I don't use any java stuff but if I can type Arabic letters in GTK+ and QT but not Java then it's openjdk bug anyway it's not my choice nor yours as free system is not a system which you can't run proprietary

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
--- On Tue, 11/18/08, Andreas Thienemann wrote: Hello Rex, On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: [Not shipping something in order to prevent people from comitting legally questionable acts in their locale] I am swayed by that argument, but this is a special case. I'm still

Re: suns' java leagal issues

2008-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
مؤيد السعدي wrote: we don't have a license to modify sun's but we have a license to distribute it I only request packing it in a proper way that 1. yum enabled repo +1 2. sane provides to satisfy fedora's package requests (like netbeans) 3. does not break or replace any thing (instead it

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Orcan Ogetbil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that we should put a disclaimer notice on the rpmfusion-nonfree-release RPM, telling the users that it is their responsibility to check the license and the legal issues by installing any package from this

Re: Hopefully a new member of the team

2008-11-18 Thread Dejan Lekic
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 16:12, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Peter Lemenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/18 Dejan Lekic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am willing to

Re: the libdvdcss issue

2008-11-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 12:18 +0100, Richard Körber wrote: For me it means that if RPMfusion is offering software that is illegal in Germany, reference? To my knowledge, libdvdcss legal position is questionable and unclear in Germany, but so for has not been proven illegal. Ralf

Freezing development repo for F10

2008-11-18 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi all! I don't think we need formal freeze rules for the development repo, but to make sure that we are in good shape for F10 I'd suggest that everyone makes sure all the important bugs in the RPM Fusion's development repos are fixed and that comps.xml is in shape for those that want to