I don't think there's anything to misunderstand here any more.
The gist of what Jo conveyed is basically this (and it's all verifiably
conveyed in earlier messages):
I have 20 years of experience with Perl and use CPAN fairly often, yet
when I'm presented with a CPAN link to the main module of a
The levels of abuse and rudeness here are phenomenal. Alex has got his A-hole
meter turned up to full strength. And if this list is moderated at all, I’m
asking for Alex to be moderated. I’m filing a formal complaint with Best
Practical over this.
The funniest bit is that his instructions are
Thought I'd chime in here. My background: I've been on this list for
several months; I work at a site that's been using RT for several
years -- I co-manage our installation; I joined the list because I
needed to figure out a few things, and then stayed on it because it
was low volume and
On 12/11/2014 01:14 PM, Milt Epstein wrote:
Thought I'd chime in here. [...]
And I'm going to step in before this gets any further out of hand. The
amount of high dudgeon in this thread is not acceptable. If it
continues, I _will_ turn on list moderation. Don't make me turn this
car around,
I support the idea of switching to MetaCPAN, which seems to be in active
development and seems to generally get a lot more right in terms of modern
website development. Plus, Download links are on the left there instead of
the right. We've established that this is important. ;)
Since RT
I’ve been using Perl for 20 years now. I grok perl.
Good run with the insults and rudeness. Because yeah, that’s a great way to
treat someone who’s pointing out a way to improve the usability of something.
Treat them like dirt, and talk down to them like they’ve never used Perl before.
I’ll
Jo, I honestly think that Alex simply misunderstood you. That's not
uncommon in these kind of lists. Better to not attribute to malice what
can be explained by miscommunication. Even in the very rare occasion that
it _is_ malice, you are better off assuming the best of people.
- Rick
Ive been
No problem. Sorry to see you go.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:49 pm Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote:
I’ve been using Perl for 20 years now. I grok perl.
Good run with the insults and rudeness. Because yeah, that’s a great way
to treat someone who’s pointing out a way to improve the
I feel that there are actually several issues to discuss in this thread:
1. Perl modules vs. Perl module distributions
2. Perl module distribution sources
3. Perl module distribution installation
4. knowledge assumed by the CPAN site
5. knowledge assumed by RT's documentation
6.
So here’s my perspective. As someone with 25 years of sysadmin experience, who
has both used RT for many years (but not in the last three years) and someone
who uses CPAN fairly often, when sent to the pm module directly, I did the
operations directly in front of me and downloaded the .pm and
Am 08.12.2014 um 19:09 schrieb Jo Rhett:
Which is said where and how?
The point is to improve the documentation such that available paths for
installation are clear. Your suggestion for yet another undocumented path is
just further argument that the extensions documentation should be
Am 03.12.2014 um 10:40 schrieb Jo Rhett:
As I just said, asking the user to edit the URL in their browser window
to be able to find the extension to download doesn’t make a lot of
sense. The links in the directory should be fixed.
Why do you want to download the extension?
You can install them
I think I might be missing something crucial in what you are saying/asking.
Linking to the main module within a distribution is a very common practice,
because that module is likely to have the most relevant documentation for
that distribution.
The distribution is clearly linked to on the page
Hey, dunno if this got overlooked during the short vacation week. This is a
pretty serious issue… asking users to manually hack up the URL in their
browser bar is not accessible.
On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote:
Hey guys and gals, been a long time.
I’m
Could you please clarify what you're asking here? How to install the
plugins?
The plugins can be installed like any other CPAN module. Given a link to a
specific .pm file:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/RT-Extension-MandatorySubject/lib/RT/Extension/MandatorySubject.pm
you can hit the Download
Hey guys and gals, been a long time.
I’m doing an upgrade from 3.8.5 to 4.2. It seems to be going well. I’m liking
the changes. Other than some confusion about what order to do things in (see my
other message) the one thing I can’t seem to wrap my head around is the new
plugin setup.
First,
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