[rules-users] Red Hat Job Opening - Software Sustaining Engineer

2014-10-23 Thread Mark Proctor
We are looking to hire someone to help improve the quality of BRMS and BPMS platforms. These are the productised versions of the Drools and jBPM open source projects. The role will involve improving our test coverage, diagnosis problems, creating reproducers for problems as well as helping fix

Re: [rules-users] setup Guvnor in Mac

2014-10-07 Thread Mark Proctor
What the installation and setup video here http://drools.org/learn/video.html Mark On 6 Oct 2014, at 15:02, gopu.shres...@wellsfargo.com wrote: > > I am newbie and want to implement Guvnor, I don't find any great steps wise > instruction to setup Guvnor in mac. Can anybody help me out? > > >

Re: [rules-users] Inconsistent behaviour of insertLogical in rules having from pattern

2014-08-28 Thread Mark Proctor
This list is now closed. Please use the google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/drools-usage Are the auto-responders informing people that the list is closed working? Mark On 28 Aug 2014, at 14:31, Vincent LEGENDRE wrote: > Forgot to say : using drools 5.6.FINAL > > De: "Vince

Re: [rules-users] Kie-Spring Integration

2014-08-25 Thread Mark Proctor
This list is now closed. This list has also moved to Google Groups: http://drools.org/community/forum.html https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/drools-usage Mark On 25 Aug 2014, at 21:26, gribeiro wrote: > Just reinforcing my question: > > I need load rules (.drl files) from a network storag

[rules-users] Moved to google groups

2014-08-21 Thread Mark Proctor
OptaPlanner now has it’s own google groups for discussions: http://www.optaplanner.org/community/forum.html Please use the correct group, to reduce the noise to signal ratio. Also just a reminder this list has also moved to Google Groups: http://drools.org/community/forum.html https://groups.goo

[rules-users] Moved to Google Groups

2014-08-21 Thread Mark Proctor
Just a reminder this list has moved to Google Groups: http://drools.org/community/forum.html https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/drools-usage Mark On 18 Aug 2014, at 12:36, Jean-Christophe Fortier wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to use the verifier with my rules on drools 5.6 and I got an > excep

[rules-users] Moved to Google Groups

2014-08-21 Thread Mark Proctor
Just a reminder this list has moved to Google Groups: http://drools.org/community/forum.html https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/drools-usage Mark On 20 Aug 2014, at 22:27, Stephen Masters wrote: > May be worth checking what class/interface your bean is. In the code that > works, you are c

[rules-users] Drools Mailing List migration to Google Groups

2014-08-19 Thread Mark Proctor
Drools community member, The Drools team are moving the rules-usesrs and rules-dev list to Google Groups. This will allow users to have a combined email and web access to the group. New Forum Information : http://drools.org/community/forum.html (click link to view) The rules-users mailing list

Re: [rules-users] javax.jcr.ReferentialIntegrityException Error while Saving the Rule in Guvnor 5.1.1

2014-08-19 Thread Mark Proctor
Have you tried upgrading to 5.6? It’s unlikely anyone will know what that error is below, especially as we’ve moved on from JCR now. Mark On 18 Aug 2014, at 13:16, LaKhI ReDdY!!! wrote: > Hi , > > > > I am getting the following error while saving the Rule in Guvnor 5.1.1. Could > y

Re: [rules-users] DROOLS 5.6.0 Final Decision Table PermGen space OutOfMemoryError

2014-08-17 Thread Mark Proctor
On 17 Aug 2014, at 01:42, Jan Rose wrote: > Mark, thanks for responding. Do you have a recommendation as to how much I > should > increase the perm gen space? The more rules, the more permgen space. So there is no recommendation, other than “enough”. > Also, is there anything else I can

Re: [rules-users] DROOLS 5.6.0 Final Decision Table PermGen space OutOfMemoryError

2014-08-16 Thread Mark Proctor
try increasing your perm gen space. Mark On 16 Aug 2014, at 04:11, Jan Rose wrote: > Would like some advice regarding using Decision Tables in DROOLS 5.6.0 Final. > We have decision tables with over 12,000 rows. It is a basic ‘look-up’ > table with 3 conditions and 2 actions. The condition

Re: [rules-users] Starnge problem with AbstractKieModule while testing, ignores "classes" folfer

2014-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
As i mentioned it’s probably a bug, our path searching does not take into account there might be two path roots. You’ll need to submit a self contained unit test. http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html One work around is to put all

Re: [rules-users] Starnge problem with AbstractKieModule while testing, ignores "classes" folfer

2014-08-12 Thread Mark Proctor
The logic for what’s going on can be found here: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-compiler/src/main/java/org/drools/compiler/kie/builder/impl/ClasspathKieProject.java Typically the code is looking for the kmodule.xml in a META-INF. When it finds it, it goes the root of that

Re: [rules-users] Annotation @PropertyReactive not works

2014-08-12 Thread Mark Proctor
se attest open a JIRA, with as much information as you can - so we can avoid losing information on potential bugs. > > I don't know that occurs, but I will solve it with any workaround > > Thanks a lot to all, > David Moros > > > > 2014-08-11 15:39 GMT+02:00

Re: [rules-users] Sequential and Decision Tables

2014-08-12 Thread Mark Proctor
sounds like you need to use ruleflow/agenda groups. To sequence when each worksheet is evaluated. Mark On 12 Aug 2014, at 16:14, sjrcgtek wrote: > Thanks. It appears that LoadOrder is just within a worksheet, so in my case > I would need salience defined explicitly in each sheet if I want to c

Re: [rules-users] Sequential and Decision Tables

2014-08-11 Thread Mark Proctor
in 6.x you do not necessarily have to set the salience any more. As LoadOrder is applied, and rules will be evaluated by the order of position within the file. Mark On 11 Aug 2014, at 15:30, Michael Anstis wrote: > The sequential flag controls the rule's salience per XLS worksheet. > > Rule's

Re: [rules-users] Annotation @PropertyReactive not works

2014-08-11 Thread Mark Proctor
You’ll need to submit a self contained minimal unit test, as a pull request. http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-compiler/src/test/java/org/drools/compiler/integrationtests/Pr

Re: [rules-users] kie:module/kie:base Question

2014-08-09 Thread Mark Proctor
Not currently, but we have thought it would be nice to include ant style resource filters. But we'd want to do more than just name, and allow meta-data filter too. No dates for any of this though yet. Mark On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:33 PM, mattmadhavan wrote: > Hello, > Seems like the only opti

Re: [rules-users] Mocking Guvnor

2014-08-08 Thread Mark Proctor
I should add that nothing on the client side of updates actually talks to Guvnor at all. It’s all just embedded Maven, interacting via local and remote m2 repositories. It just happens that Guvnor can build and install into a remote m2 repo. Mark On 8 Aug 2014, at 18:06, Mark Proctor wrote

Re: [rules-users] Mocking Guvnor

2014-08-08 Thread Mark Proctor
the updates just go through kie-ci, I’m assuming you are using this. I think you could mock this without Guvnor, by creating a temporary local m2_repo and add jars there. kie-ci will pick those up and try and apply them. Mark On 8 Aug 2014, at 18:02, san_hegde wrote: > Actually during functi

[rules-users] google groups

2014-08-06 Thread Mark Proctor
We are in the final stages for the discussions on lists and forums. We are likely to move all lists to google groups, as it provides a unified email list and web forum. There will be three resulting groups, instead of the current two. Drools Setup - installation, configuration, setup and administ

Re: [rules-users] RightTupleList NPE with 6.1.0.Final

2014-08-06 Thread Mark Proctor
On 6 Aug 2014, at 10:31, Matteo Mortari wrote: > Hi Mario, thank for your response and I can totally understand. > > My next question is, please: is it possible to submit a JIRA on jboss.org and > keep it confidential ? > Or at least keep confidential the reproducer? Not on JIRA, but you can o

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6.x and Custom Operators(Evaluators) and Accumulators - Using them as regular functions?

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Proctor
you no longer need to declare custom accumulators, instead they are specified via imports. See docs, notice the “import” bit. http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html/DroolsLanguageReferenceChapter.html#d0e6601 7.8.3.7.4.1. Accumulate CE (preferred syntax) …. The code f

Re: [rules-users] All Drools examples 6.x fail on Mvel dependency error

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Proctor
Those all have unit test, that get run as part of the build. So there must be something wrong your side. Most likely mismatched MVEL versions. Mark On 5 Aug 2014, at 22:06, mattmadhavan wrote: > This happens even after I added the following dependency > > > org.mvel >

Re: [rules-users] Conflict resolution strategy - before vs after Phreak impl

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Proctor
question though - if rules in multiple different files become eligble > for firing "at the same time", is their ordering something that is > readily predictable? > > Thanks > > Borris > > On Monday 28/07/2014 17:11, Mark Proctor wrote: >> Phreak is just depth

Re: [rules-users] Build&Deploy - Drools Document

2014-08-01 Thread Mark Proctor
http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-knowledge/tree/master/kie-docs/ On 1 Aug 2014, at 23:26, Michael Anstis wrote: > Please submit a pull request for an update to the documentation and we

Re: [rules-users] StackOverflow when serializing KieBase

2014-08-01 Thread Mark Proctor
o me that is not > the case as https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2335. > Any help is appreciated. > > Federico. > > > On 07/31/2014 01:25 AM, Mark Proctor wrote: >> It should work, there should not be too much recursion. I’d suggest digging >> deeper to s

Re: [rules-users] NPE in LeftTupleSetsImpl.removeUpdate

2014-07-30 Thread Mark Proctor
try 6.1.x, this is being released as we speak: http://downloads.jboss.org/drools/release/snapshot/6.1.x/ Mark On 31 Jul 2014, at 02:48, Davide Sottara wrote: > It has almost certainly been fixed in 6.1 > Davide > > On 07/31/2014 03:40 AM, David Zeigler wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm using drools 6.0.1.Fi

Re: [rules-users] StackOverflow when serializing KieBase

2014-07-30 Thread Mark Proctor
It should work, there should not be too much recursion. I’d suggest digging deeper to see if you can point us to the references that are suspect. Mark On 30 Jul 2014, at 17:28, Federico Bertola wrote: > Hi all, > when I try to serialize a rather large KieBase I constantly get the > aforementio

Re: [rules-users] Conflict resolution strategy - before vs after Phreak impl

2014-07-28 Thread Mark Proctor
Conflict resolution strategies are “magic” things, it means how a set of rules behave cannot be determined from reading the rules alone, and could potentially change if someone changes the backend component (possibly without you knowing). Our preference is to ensure any execution behaviour is en

Re: [rules-users] Deploying drools workbench on weblogic

2014-07-28 Thread Mark Proctor
We haven’t done any testing on Weblogic yet, we in the process of going through this now. Any feedback or pointers would be appreciated. Mark On 28 Jul 2014, at 11:34, Darshana Rajapaksha (Thailand) wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to deploy > kie-drools-wb-distribution-wars-6.0.1.Final-tomcat7.0.wa

Re: [rules-users] gradle and drools

2014-07-24 Thread Mark Proctor
By getting involved and porting the maven plugin to those other build systems: http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html Mark On 24 Jul 2014, at 14:08, Mercier Jonathan wrote: > Dear, > > Gradle become day after day more popular. In m

Re: [rules-users] Defeasible: NPE: with multiple @Defeasible

2014-07-23 Thread Mark Proctor
On 23 Jul 2014, at 21:58, Borris wrote: > > On 22/07/2014 22:44, Mark Proctor wrote: >> Stack trace shows the error: >> org.drools.core.beliefsystem.defeasible.DefeasibleBeliefSet.removeUndefeated(DefeasibleBeliefSet.java:295) >> https://github.com/sotty/drools/blob/mas

Re: [rules-users] Defeasible: NPE: with multiple @Defeasible

2014-07-22 Thread Mark Proctor
Stack trace shows the error: org.drools.core.beliefsystem.defeasible.DefeasibleBeliefSet.removeUndefeated(DefeasibleBeliefSet.java:295) https://github.com/sotty/drools/blob/master/drools-core/src/main/java/org/drools/core/beliefsystem/defeasible/DefeasibleBeliefSet.java Maybe have a go fixing it y

Re: [rules-users] Drools Applications Google Group

2014-07-22 Thread Mark Proctor
tage > of what I consider as interesting, i.e., the "hard core" Expert/Fusion > questions. > > Cheers > Wolfgang > > On 22/07/2014, Mark Proctor wrote: >> A while back there was a discussion on the volume of posts and the range of >> post discussions.

[rules-users] Drools Applications Google Group

2014-07-22 Thread Mark Proctor
A while back there was a discussion on the volume of posts and the range of post discussions. OptaPlanner already has it’s own google group, which has helped reduce the volume. There is still the discussion on whether to split Drools. My initial idea is to leave this list for installation, setu

Re: [rules-users] Question about getObjects() on workspace with defeasible belief system

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Proctor
Easiest thing is to look at the code: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-core/src/main/java/org/drools/core/beliefsystem/defeasible/DefeasibleBeliefSet.java https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-core/src/main/java/org/drools/core/beliefsystem/defeasible/Defeas

Re: [rules-users] Workaround: EventFactHandle retained in memory after FactCount reaches 0 for temporal-based rule

2014-07-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Could you submit a unit test as a pull request? http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.5.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html Add it to here, and follow existing conventions: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-compiler/src/test/java/org/drools/compiler

Re: [rules-users] Repositories in Kie-Drools

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Proctor
For now you’ll need to setup some manual sync between the two. Mar On 7 Jul 2014, at 05:51, Sumit Dhaniya wrote: > I want to use a repository hosted on cloud as repository in my kie ide. > I tried creating a new repo cloning an existing repo but after cloning kie > ide creates a new repo path at

Re: [rules-users] Kie namespace

2014-07-06 Thread Mark Proctor
d for property 'kBaseName' in class > 'org.kie.spring.factorybeans.KSessionFactoryBean'. > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Mark Proctor [via Drools] <[hidden email]> > wrote: > It’s in the jar: > https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration

Re: [rules-users] Kie namespace

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Proctor
It’s in the jar: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/kie-spring/src/main/resources/org/kie/spring/kie-spring-6.0.0.xsd On 4 Jul 2014, at 22:23, Sumit Dhaniya wrote: > I'm trying to configure drools in my spring application but I'm struggling to > find even schema lo

Re: [rules-users] Drools Session Persistence

2014-06-30 Thread Mark Proctor
You can marshal the sessions manually and save/load the resulting byte[]. Look at the marshaller api in -api javadocs. Mark On 1 Jul 2014, at 01:40, calcacuervo wrote: > Hey Guys. > > I would like to persist a ksession in drools 6, but not every time I > interact with the session, as this woul

Re: [rules-users] kbase using kie

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Proctor
Someone on irc wrote a load of helper api’s to simplify the incremental builder stuff, I did ask them to write something up for others to benefit from. But i haven’t heard anything since. I know they wrote most of them from following the unit test I showed you. Mark On 30 Jun 2014, at 05:07, Ch

Re: [rules-users] kbase using kie

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Proctor
Do you really need kie-ci? If not remove it. It’s not needed, unless you want maven to resolve dependencies and handle the update process, which you do not. If you cannot figure out the api, then the alternative route is to simple call the mvn plugin via the command line, each time you detect a

Re: [rules-users] kbase using kie

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Proctor
On 30 Jun 2014, at 04:20, Chris B wrote: > I am using 6.0.1 and having difficulties in kmodule.xml. > > My goal is to have a directory where I can keep putting new rules which > should be automatically picked up. This is not possible. When you want to do an update you will need to build a new

Re: [rules-users] Equality semantics of logical assertions and stated assertions

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Proctor
y use identity-based equality > checks - by default. > It looks like this can be changed to value-based equality via > RuleBaseConfiguration. > > I have found some related, old Jiras: > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-266 > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-233 &

Re: [rules-users] unsubscribed from the rules-users mailing list

2014-06-23 Thread Mark Proctor
We will be reorganising the lists and forums when the new websites are done, as we will be revamping all our communication then. OptaPlanner and Workbench/UI stuff will move to google groups. We are hoping this will coincide with the 6.1 final. We just wanted to get all of this coordinated and

Re: [rules-users] KieContainer#updateToVersion fails when both versions of a drl file contain an event type declaration for an existing class

2014-06-18 Thread Mark Proctor
Looks like a bug. Please try on 6.1CR1. http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.drools If it’s not fixed, and yo want it fixed you’ll need to submit a pull request with a failing unit test: http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html You c

Re: [rules-users] Noob question: graph searching, query, root node for a given node

2014-06-18 Thread Mark Proctor
It looks like your graph is not in the WM, so you can just iterate the references. Here is an example of how to do this. @Test public void testGraphIterationToFindLeafs() { String drl = "import " + Datum.class.getCanonicalName() + ";\n" + "import java.util.List;\n" +

Re: [rules-users] Noob question: graph searching, query, root node for a given node

2014-06-18 Thread Mark Proctor
> I want a query that takes a datum and yields the root nodes for that datum. Do you mean root node or nodes? Surely there can only be one root? Or do you mean you are looking for the leafs? Mark On 18 Jun 2014, at 13:31, Borris wrote: > I'm after a quick bit of help on how to do something that

Re: [rules-users] drools 6 code inner code which serarch kmodule.xml

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Proctor
ClasspathKieProject.discoverKieModules. https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-compiler/src/main/java/org/drools/compiler/kie/builder/impl/ClasspathKieProject.java Mark On 12 Jun 2014, at 08:24, ganeshneelekani wrote: > Hi Team, > > please follow below code. > >

Re: [rules-users] Adding eval on rule cause it to run in infinite loop

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Proctor
Davide is correct, for our analysis to work, the constraint must not be inside an eval, and any constraint that does not start with a field name is internally rewritten as an eval. Mark On 11 Jun 2014, at 18:48, Davide Sottara wrote: > I think I know what is happening here. > I assume your sup

Re: [rules-users] Are there second-rate fact types?

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Proctor
The feature was more important when we didn’t allow casting, but people still wanted to work with Maps and Lists. Map( this[key].age < 30) Collections where defaulted to typefalse(false) Now that we support inline casts, it can be argued that things should always be type safe: Map( this[key]#P

Re: [rules-users] NullPointerException at org.drools.compiler.kie.builder.impl.KieContainerImpl.updateToVersion

2014-06-06 Thread Mark Proctor
We have a number of add/remove rule tests, could you reproduce your problem, using the same classes and format as outlined in this test class. Ideally adding your reproducer as a single failing test method: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/drools/blob/master/drools-compiler/src/test/java/org/drools/

Re: [rules-users] Drools slowness in first calls

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Proctor
On 5 Jun 2014, at 16:48, Gael wrote: > Hi, > > We are using Drools for a heavy process and we notice some slowness during > the first calls to kbases (containing about 1500 rules each) using > StatefulKnowledgeSession. > Even if the kbase is "loaded", we need to make some "fictive" calls (fire

Re: [rules-users] Activation-group ignored when working with events in Drools 6 ?

2014-06-03 Thread Mark Proctor
We’ll look into it, it may already be fixed by this: https://github.com/sotty/drools/commit/15cfe29d946d7e33520c20b4f3a61bedeeab05cc Mark On 3 Jun 2014, at 18:33, kenota wrote: > It seems that activation-group rule attribute is ignored when rule works with > events (@role(event)). Example rule f

Re: [rules-users] ruleflow-group vs. agenda-group vs. activation-group ?

2014-06-03 Thread Mark Proctor
On 3 Jun 2014, at 13:16, Péter Gergely, Horváth wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been experimenting with agenda-group and ruleflow-group features and I > am now a bit confused. The documentation states that agenda-group and > ruleflow-group features have been merged, but I'm not sure how this relate

Re: [rules-users] Rules storage without Guvnor?

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
em > and still have the automatic change detection? Use the maven plugin. You don’t need to be maven enterprise to use maven. > For example, we could push rule files to NFS with CI and let the application > detect and pick up changes... > > Thanks, > Peter > > > &

Re: [rules-users] Abstraction between rules and data model?

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 2 Jun 2014, at 13:59, Horváth Péter Gergely wrote: > Hi Davide, > > Thanks, I just wanted to get a grasp of the time frame we could expect > (whether it is a month or half a year etc.) :) We haven’t had much feedback on traits, and the system is still in flux. So we cannot give any time f

Re: [rules-users] Does generated graph rules is build to respect a disjunctive normal form ?

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 2 Jun 2014, at 14:58, Mercier Jonathan wrote: > Thanks Mark simple and clear :-) > > Did you you have somewhere a roadmap ? > to know: >- when nearly 6.0.2 will come 6.1 CR should be out this week >- when concurrent approach wil be add Our new algorithm has been designed for paralle

Re: [rules-users] Does generated graph rules is build to respect a disjunctive normal form ?

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
I thought clips did do disjunction normal form? in that all ‘or’s are removed from the body of the tree and moved to the root, thus rewriting the logic into separate rules? This docs shows an ‘or’ rule is the equivalent of disjunction normal form: http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~sylee/courses/clips/

Re: [rules-users] Rules storage without Guvnor?

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Proctor
On 2 Jun 2014, at 08:40, Péter Gergely, Horváth wrote: > Hello All, > > We are evaluating Drools for our use case and would have a question for > storing rules files. We are in a relatively constrained environment, where > getting Guvnor up and running does not seems to be a valid option. Sin

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6 Eclipse debugger does not work?

2014-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
Our Eclipse tooling hasn’t received much love over the years, and no one from community has ever stepped up :( We might have some one internal to RHT that might be able to help in the near future, but that will take a few weeks before I hear anything. We in the Drools team tend to stick with pl

Re: [rules-users] Using git-p4 with workbench

2014-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
s the workbench perform regular fetches on a > cloned repo? > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Mark Proctor wrote: > don’t touch the .niogit folder. You have your git-p4 repo, that you cloned. > Now push it to the ssh connection of the Guvnor server. > Mark > > On

Re: [rules-users] Using git-p4 with workbench

2014-05-27 Thread Mark Proctor
k tree? > > Jean-Philippe > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Mark Proctor wrote: > We use JGit and I don’t believe (but could be wrong) it has direct p4 > support, like this git extension offers. > http://git-scm.com/docs/git-p4 > > However Git is dis

Re: [rules-users] Using git-p4 with workbench

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Proctor
We use JGit and I don’t believe (but could be wrong) it has direct p4 support, like this git extension offers. http://git-scm.com/docs/git-p4 However Git is distributed, so just clone and sync a p4 repo with this Git command line tool and use it as an intermediary. Then merge/mirror this interm

[rules-users] London (May 26th) Drools & jBPM community contributor meeting

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Proctor
. Email me if you’re interested, and after discussing with the team, I’ll let you know. Those currently attending: Mark Proctor (mon-fri) Group architect Edson Tirelli (mon-fri) Drools backend, and project lead Mario Fusco (mon-fri) Drools backend Davide Sottara (wed-fri) Drools backend Alex Porcelli

Re: [rules-users] Using KieScanner in drools6

2014-05-21 Thread Mark Proctor
See http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.1.0.Beta3/drools-docs/html/KIEChapter.html 4.2.3.5. Settings.xml and Remote Repository Setup 4.2.3.3. KieScanner 4.2.5. Installation and Deployment Cheat Sheets Mark On 21 May 2014, at 11:59, ganeshneelekani wrote: > Hi Team, > > I go through with

Re: [rules-users] Upgrade to protobuf 2.5 - Prevents Upgrading to Drools 6.x

2014-05-20 Thread Mark Proctor
On 20 May 2014, at 02:37, mikerod wrote: > Upgrading Hadoop is not possible for sometime still. It requires a fairly > large coordinated effort. > > I don't suppose there is any chance that there will be a workaround for this > in Drools 6? > Perhaps a configuration options or something? If so

Re: [rules-users] setup Drools

2014-05-19 Thread Mark Proctor
That article is over 3 years old, and not relevant for 6.0. Please try the documentation here: http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.1.Final/drools-docs/html/index.html Mark On 19 May 2014, at 19:35, Gopu Shrestha wrote: > I want to try Guvnor and try to install following this > linkhttp://

Re: [rules-users] Drools and GPU

2014-05-19 Thread Mark Proctor
GPUs do not allow state/reference sharing. So it’s not as ideal as you think. Mark On 19 May 2014, at 18:16, Anton Hughes wrote: > Hi all > > We have finding drools to be very resource hungry - and we are looking at > having to have very many servers just to satisfy our drools requirements. So

Re: [rules-users] CompositiveClassLoader$CachingLoader$load method intermittently hangs

2014-05-18 Thread Mark Proctor
On 19 May 2014, at 03:21, mikerod wrote: > > I'm not sure how any of this relates to the Drools v6.x family. CompositeClassLoader is all gone, so I don’t think this issue will exist in 6.x. Would be good if you could verify with beta3: http://downloads.jboss.org/drools/release/6.1.0.Beta3/ W

Re: [rules-users] upgrading drools 5.4 to 6.0

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Proctor
please don’t post multiple times. You asked this question 3 times within the hour. Mark On 13 May 2014, at 11:12, ganeshneelekani wrote: > Hi All, > > I am using drools version 5.4 and I used url of changeset.xml to call the > the drools-guvnor from my java code. > > Now I am upgrading to d

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6 support for changeset

2014-05-13 Thread Mark Proctor
On 13 May 2014, at 11:57, ganeshneelekani wrote: > Hi All, > > I am using drools version 5.4 and I used url of changeset.xml to call the > the drools-guvnor from my java code. > > Now I am upgrading to drools 6.0 workbench version(Let me know if camel > version is used), How can I call the dr

Re: [rules-users] Anyone want to help on our new Rule Algorithm?

2014-05-11 Thread Mark Proctor
parallelized. Mark On 12 May 2014, at 00:00, Mark Proctor wrote: > If anyone is interested in helping out on our next generation rule algorithm, > we’ll offer personal mentoring to get you started on your way. Just ping my > email directly, to discuss: > http://blog.athico.com

[rules-users] Anyone want to help on our new Rule Algorithm?

2014-05-11 Thread Mark Proctor
If anyone is interested in helping out on our next generation rule algorithm, we’ll offer personal mentoring to get you started on your way. Just ping my email directly, to discuss: http://blog.athico.com/2013/11/rip-rete-time-to-get-phreaky.html Mark

Re: [rules-users] Development lifecycle

2014-05-11 Thread Mark Proctor
If it’s a new Drools architecture, I’d recommend you use 6.1 beta3. We use GIT for source and Maven for artefacts. You an setup different maven repo’s for dev, stage and prod and create a copy routine to move the jars between the environments (or use a tool like sonatype). Mark On 11 May 2014,

Re: [rules-users] Multiple threads for KieBuilder

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Proctor
This is not possible in the public api now, but it seems like this approach would be a valid thing to add to the internal core of Drools. So that we do parallel compilation, seamlessly, for all our users. I’m not sure when we’ll have time to do it, although maybe someone from the community can w

Re: [rules-users] Not able to use in Kie Spring

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Proctor
It would well be missed out. Could you write a unit test, so we can catch regressions and submit as a pull request please? When prove the problem with a test, open a jira and put the jira ID in the comment, as per the “getting involved” docs Example unit tests for kie-spring: https://github.com

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6.0.1 Negative Patterns in Stream Mode not working

2014-05-07 Thread Mark Proctor
Can you try 6.1 beta2? And if there is still a bug, please open a jira: http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.drools/drools-core/6.1.0.Beta2 Ideally please submit a self contained unit test, as a pull request. As explained here: http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.5.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduc

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6.0.0 activation-group + salience bug or feature?

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Proctor
That’s what an activation-group does. The first rule (with the highest salience) fires, the others are cancelled. Out of interest, what’s the game? Something online we can look at? I have an interest in games development for Drools, and have been slowly adding examples. Space invaders was my la

Re: [rules-users] Possibility to use variable reference in date comparison using coincides?

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Proctor
Not right now. Mark On 6 May 2014, at 20:29, Björn Nord wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to use a reference to a variable in the coincide-section like > the one I have tried below with $expireWeeks? > > > rule "Request expired analysis" > dialect "mvel" > when > SettingForDefinition( d

Re: [rules-users] KieScanner not working

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Proctor
I believe the way it is at the moment, the head version must change for it to detect a change in the over all build. I don’t think it detects and updates transitively only. Mark On 6 May 2014, at 22:08, Pykhtin, Alex wrote: > I’m trying to use KieScanner in 6.0.1.Final build and just can’t mak

Re: [rules-users] Requesting for sample spring+drools code

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Proctor
I would recommend you move to 6.0, where changsets are no longer needed. 6.0 example spring/camel WAR: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/tree/master/drools-camel-server-example Mark On 6 May 2014, at 15:57, ganeshneelekani wrote: > Hi Team > > I am doing a project using sp

Re: [rules-users] Rules not picked when packaged inside the JAR

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Proctor
Have you tried this without using spring? Would be good to know if the problem is with our spring implementation or not. Mark On 6 May 2014, at 03:51, ash316 wrote: > I am using JBOSS 6.1 EAP and my application also uses kie-spring 6.1-Beta > > On May 6, 2014 12:03 PM, "Mar

Re: [rules-users] Rules not picked when packaged inside the JAR

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Proctor
This may be a container issue, which container are you using? It doesn’t locate resources via the classloader. Instead it locates the jar on the file system and scans the contents of the jar. The jar must have a kmodule.xml file inside of it to be recognised and it’s resources added. We know th

Re: [rules-users] Using dynamic package names with Drools 6.0 Spring integration.

2014-05-04 Thread Mark Proctor
I expect this is functionality that would have to be added to our spring implementation. An ideal task for someone wanting to contribute to the project: http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.5.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html Mark On 2 May 2014, at 17:17, Sunny Sing

Re: [rules-users] Is property reactive bug in 5.5 fixed in 6.0

2014-05-04 Thread Mark Proctor
rools/release/5.4.0.Final/droolsjbpm-introduction-docs/html/gettingstarted.html"; Mark On 5 May 2014, at 00:34, wtang wrote: > if you please could click on the link on the original post, you will see it > has Mark Proctor name on it and you were pushing for a fix in future release > of 5

Re: [rules-users] Is property reactive bug in 5.5 fixed in 6.0

2014-05-04 Thread Mark Proctor
not aware of any property reactive bugs, make sure you try master to be sure: http://downloads.jboss.org/drools/release/snapshot/master/ Mark On 4 May 2014, at 21:43, wtang wrote: > Hi, > > I am having issues with property reactive causing some rules not to get > fired. Looks like someone also

Re: [rules-users] Guvnor 5.3.0 crashing OOM JoinNodeLeftTuple

2014-05-01 Thread Mark Proctor
You’d also need to show that it’s still an issue in 5.6, or 6.0. Mark On 1 May 2014, at 22:12, Davide Sottara wrote: > This is unlikely a problem of the guided editor. Tuples are created when you > run the rules in a session. > We'd need to know which rules you're running and how you are > ins

[rules-users] Decision Camp 2014 : Call for Speakers : Oct 13-15, San Jose

2014-04-29 Thread Mark Proctor
http://blog.athico.com/2014/04/decision-camp-2014-call-for-speakers.html ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] KieScanner with remote repository?

2014-04-14 Thread Mark Proctor
You need to update your settings.xml to point to your remote repository. The docs provide information on the settings.xml configuration. Mark On 15 Apr 2014, at 00:50, vvicky72 wrote: > I am able to get KieScanner (6.1 beta) to work on my local maven repository > using "LATEST". But everytime

Re: [rules-users] Pooling stateful sessions to have threaded executions of a ruleset

2014-04-13 Thread Mark Proctor
as it says in the docs. we’ve designed things to put in foundations for future multi-threaded exploitation, but there is nothing there now. The example code doesn’t make too much sense to me. As you are saying you are using them as a pool, but you are disposing after use. Mark On 11 Apr 2014,

Re: [rules-users] Integration of Spring MVC 3.2.X and Drools 6.0.0.Final KIE issues ....

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Any chance you could write some details here? As I expect this will come up again. Anything you could maybe submit to the documentation? Mark On 8 Apr 2014, at 13:51, profversaggi wrote: > Just for the sake of posterity - I figured it out and have it working. If > anyone should want some assis

Re: [rules-users] No setter found for property 'kBaseName' in class 'org.kie.spring.factorybeans.KBaseFactoryBean'

2014-04-07 Thread Mark Proctor
I suspect the current code looks for the different xml, depending on the container. i.e. spring looks for kmodule-spring.xml. I guess what is needed is to fallback to kmodule.xml if that is not present. I’ve cc’d in the author for more feedback. Mark On 7 Apr 2014, at 22:49, profversaggi wrote

Re: [rules-users] KIE API for Decision Tables Templates

2014-04-07 Thread Mark Proctor
Reading is inferred from the file extension type. Simply add your resources, with the correct file extension, and it will be built. Mark On 7 Apr 2014, at 10:03, Andrei Ermicioi wrote: > Hi there! > > I was looking on web to find if KIE provide any API for reading the Decision > Tables from

Re: [rules-users] Memory leak due CompositeClassLoader

2014-04-06 Thread Mark Proctor
> > > Any work-around available in 5.6? > > Thanks, > Romain > > > > > > From:Mark Proctor > To:Rules Users List , > Date:01/04/2014 19:38 > Subject:Re: [rules-users] Memory leak due CompositeClassLoader &g

Re: [rules-users] Drools 6 and OSGi

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Proctor
les have to define their dependencies very carefully to become > compiled. > > Thanks a lot for your answers. > > Best Florian > > > > > > 2014-03-31 18:28 GMT+02:00 Mark Proctor : > There was a lot of OSGi fixes in 6.0.1, aimed at the karat container. H

Re: [rules-users] Drools Fusion inconsistencies at increasing event throughputs

2014-04-01 Thread Mark Proctor
We have this fixed now. Hopefully this will be in the nightly build, and available for testing tomorrow. I’ll ping with a link to the nightly builds once it’s available. Mark On 31 Mar 2014, at 14:34, Mark Proctor wrote: > We are still working on this, we’ve found a number of related poi

Re: [rules-users] Memory leak due CompositeClassLoader

2014-04-01 Thread Mark Proctor
There were a lot of fixes around this and other areas. Please upgrade to 5.6, then come back if you have problems. Mark On 1 Apr 2014, at 14:24, Romain Thouvenin wrote: > Hello, > > I am working on a Web application that uses a third-party component that uses > Drools 5.2.1 (I know this is o

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