Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Proctor
he's talking about the flexible processes, where rules can control the execution of processes. It's a feature we have, that not many people are aware of - it's not ready for prime time use, still incubator. Krisv will respond in a bit, with some pointers. Mark On 9 Nov 2012, at 14:26, Esteban A

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-09 Thread Esteban Aliverti
What you seem to be looking for is a "Conditional Start Event" where you can define the condition using Drools syntax. What you should do when you want to introduce a "wait point" is to do the merge of you current flow with one of this Conditional Start Event using an Converging Parallel Gateway. T

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-09 Thread dunnlow
Salaboy, the issue I have is that I want users to be able to see the process graphically, so I think that means I need one overall process (I may use a few sub-processes). Using rules however as you suggest is there a way to "pause" a process until a message (/signal) with certain criteria is inse

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-08 Thread Mark Proctor
What you are talking about is an experimental feature that allows the rules to control the process execution. http://docs.jboss.org/jbpm/v5.1/userguide/ch17.html How to do this is still not documented that well there are some aspects we have to work on to make it simpler - hence why it's really

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-08 Thread Mauricio Salatino
Yes, your scenario is a good scenario for Drools and JBPM. What you can do is to describe a set of rules to handle the events and those rules can trigger processes. In that way your process definitions will be smaller and you will be able to handle with rules the correlation of the events. Cheers

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-08 Thread dunnlow
Thank you for the information / update. I notice that almost all of the examples that I find are user task based (or more specifically, NOT event-based, which is my use case). I am planning to inform a process largely (but not entirely) with events. Short of having a signal and gateway for eve

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-07 Thread Mark Proctor
If you are ever worried about a project, best place to look is the source. Plenty of commits going on there: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/jbpm/commits/master https://github.com/droolsjbpm/jbpm-console-ng/commits/master https://github.com/droolsjbpm/jbpm-designer/commits/master Plus there is a ne

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-07 Thread Mauricio Salatino
Hi J, Yes kind the opposite, we are full speed working and the team is getting bigger and bigger. My book is going out in one month and as you can imagine it takes time to write and a lot of effort. Write now it's getting reviewed by the editorial and it will be released early December. Feel free t

Re: [rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-07 Thread Cristiano GaviĆ£o
Hi, don't think so... the JBPM project is under full activity... just look at the issue tracking: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBPM. the version 5.4.0.CR1 was released some weeks ago (could see no notes about, but it was). 5.4.0.Final should be released soon and the team is already working

[rules-users] Is Flow / jBPM dying on the vine?

2012-11-07 Thread dunnlow
Hi, I am considering using drools with Flow/jBPM as an integral part of a corporate solution. However, it seems to me like the project is dying on the vine. I understand the code is still being worked but overall interest seems to be waning; evidenced by things like, a (...the) jBPM 5 book due t