[sage-devel] Re: Request for matrix() to try _matrix_(), similar to vector()

2007-12-17 Thread Nick Alexander
Ack, I'm an idiot. The functionality is there in matrix(), I just need to add _matrix_ to the vector classes. Will do that instead :) BTW, the matrix() documentation is not right -- it doesn't say this. Nick On Dec 17, 8:30 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I fre

[sage-devel] Request for matrix() to try _matrix_(), similar to vector()

2007-12-17 Thread Nick Alexander
Hi everyone, I frequently want to get column vectors, and vector([2, 3]).transpose () is not implemented. One then thinks of matrix(vector([2, 3])).transpose(), but matrix() is a little rigid. Looking at vector, there is a protocol that calls _vector_() if possible; I would like that to

[sage-devel] Re: hg record extension

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 12:13 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I noticed that Mercurial 0.9.5 has a "record" extension that mimics the > darcs record functionality of interactively asking what changes you want > to commit out of a file. I know there was discussion of this a while ago. > > R

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-newbie] Sage 2.9 VMWare image released

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 3:41 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks to Ted Kosan we now have a 2.9 VMWare image available for > download at sagemath.org. It has been mirrored out to > sage.math.washington.edu and modular.fas.harvard.edu. It is about 70mb > larger than the 2.8.15 image, but I am

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Stephen Forrest
On Dec 17, 2007 2:00 PM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Well, sort of good news. > > For Maple, you have to know about '10', or assume that 'current' (cf. > William's earlier msg) points to the one you want to run [probably a > reasonable assumption]. 'Current' is actually

[sage-devel] WMI 2.1 (Christmas release) is here, http://matek.hu/info/matekhu21en.html

2007-12-17 Thread Zoltán Kovács
* WMI 2.1 * The developer team of *WMI2 * is happy to announce their continuously developed e-Learning software which reached the milestone version 2.1. This new version is capable to provide about 70 selected symbolic and numerical operations from a wide range of areas of mat

[sage-devel] Sage 2.9 VMWare image released

2007-12-17 Thread mabshoff
Hello, thanks to Ted Kosan we now have a 2.9 VMWare image available for download at sagemath.org. It has been mirrored out to sage.math.washington.edu and modular.fas.harvard.edu. It is about 70mb larger than the 2.8.15 image, but I am not sure if that is caused by the additions of R, ATLAS and P

[sage-devel] Fwd: [sage-newbie] Integer points on Elliptic Curves

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
- William (Sent from my iPhone.) Begin forwarded message: > From: bill purvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: December 17, 2007 3:05:25 PM MST > To: sage-newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [sage-newbie] Integer points on Elliptic Curves > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Anyone have any usefu

[sage-devel] Re: sage-vmware

2007-12-17 Thread Ted Kosan
Ted wrote: > I will do it. Here it is: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/misc/sage-vmware-2.9_tested.zip Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PR

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Monday 17 December 2007 15:07, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > It is so not obvious that f(2) and f(1) are different in any major   > > way.  I can > > imagine situations like the above cropping up in much more subtle   > > ways and > > being totally inscrutable.  So, in short, I believe that the  

[sage-devel] Re: some misc 3d plotting changes from my plane flight

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 17, 2007, at 11:53 AM, William Stein wrote: >> I was wondering why you added background to objects. If there are two >> objects with different backgrounds, what does it do? Should >> backgrounds be a plotting parameter (default white) instead? > > Well I wanted the background to be white b

[sage-devel] hg record extension

2007-12-17 Thread Jason Grout
I noticed that Mercurial 0.9.5 has a "record" extension that mimics the darcs record functionality of interactively asking what changes you want to commit out of a file. I know there was discussion of this a while ago. Reference: http://www.selenic.com/pipermail/mercurial/2007-October/015150.

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Joel B. Mohler wrote: > On Monday 17 December 2007 11:41, William Stein wrote: >> This is *not* a bug. The is by design. Since f has no variables it >> is no longer >> implicitly callable: > > Sorry for the double reply. Perhaps I should be very explicit > about

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Monday 17 December 2007 11:41, William Stein wrote: > This is *not* a bug.  The is by design.  Since f has no variables it > is no longer > implicitly callable: Sorry for the double reply. Perhaps I should be very explicit about why I think the current state is very error-prone (and hence, I

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread John Cremona
I seem to remember that Maple has a function "unapply" which when applied to a symbolic expression with one variable, returns a callable function, e.g. unapply(t*cos(0)) would return a callable function t -> t*cos(0). I cannot remember if it could handle symbolic expressions with more than one va

[sage-devel] Re: some misc 3d plotting changes from my plane flight

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
Hi, This is a technical discussion between Robert and me involving our work on jmol and 3d plotting in sage. I'm cc'ing to to sage-devel in the interest of openness... On Dec 17, 2007 11:21 AM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 11:02 AM, William Stein wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Monday 17 December 2007 11:41, William Stein wrote: > This is *not* a bug.  The is by design.  Since f has no variables it > is no longer > implicitly callable: > > sage: f.variables() > () > sage: f(1) > .ValueError: the number of arguments must be less than or equal to 0 > > You will have to

[sage-devel] Re: sage-vmware

2007-12-17 Thread Ted Kosan
I will do it. Ted On Dec 17, 2007 12:15 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I need help making sage-vmware-2.9.zip. Could somebody with high > bandwidth, vmware, > and an account on sage.math do the following: > > (1) immediately respond to this email volunteering, so on

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:27 , Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: [snip] >> The trick is to locate the app. I know nothing about Maple, but for >> Mathematica, it should obey the "app rules". Of course, I don't >> know what they are either :-}, but a

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:52 , Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Forrest wrote: > >> >> On Dec 17, 2007 1:27 PM, Robert Bradshaw >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> IIRC, It's an .app, but inside the .app folder there's a executable >>> file "maple" that one can in

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Forrest wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007 1:27 PM, Robert Bradshaw > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> IIRC, It's an .app, but inside the .app folder there's a executable >> file "maple" that one can invoke from the command line works as one >> would expect. On OS

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Stephen Forrest
On Dec 17, 2007 1:27 PM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC, It's an .app, but inside the .app folder there's a executable > file "maple" that one can invoke from the command line works as one > would expect. On OS X one can use spotlight (also accessible from the > shell) to locat

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 10:27 AM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: > > > Hi, all, > > > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 08:48 , William Stein wrote: > > > >> There are now a lot of people using Sage on OSX who don't know > >> (much) about the comma

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 10:19 AM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, all, > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 08:48 , William Stein wrote: > > > There are now a lot of people using Sage on OSX who don't know > > (much) about the command line, but who are maple/mathematica > > users. When they try: >

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: > Hi, all, > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 08:48 , William Stein wrote: > >> There are now a lot of people using Sage on OSX who don't know >> (much) about the command line, but who are maple/mathematica >> users. When they try: >> >> sage: mathema

[sage-devel] Re: "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread Justin C. Walker
Hi, all, On Dec 17, 2007, at 08:48 , William Stein wrote: > There are now a lot of people using Sage on OSX who don't know > (much) about the command line, but who are maple/mathematica > users. When they try: > > sage: mathematica('2+2') > > they get a big error message about creating a "mat

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread John Cremona
You are NOT wrong, your are right! I used to have a lot of problems from students when Maple simplified 2(x+y) to 2 (at least it used to). John On 17/12/2007, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007 5:32 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I do

[sage-devel] sage-vmware

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
Hi, I need help making sage-vmware-2.9.zip. Could somebody with high bandwidth, vmware, and an account on sage.math do the following: (1) immediately respond to this email volunteering, so only one person does this (2) Download sage-vmware-2.9.zip in http://sage.math.washing

[sage-devel] "math" and "maple" scripts on OSX?

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
Justin (cc: sage-devel), There are now a lot of people using Sage on OSX who don't know (much) about the command line, but who are maple/mathematica users. When they try: sage: mathematica('2+2') they get a big error message about creating a "math" script, etc., and similarly for Maple. It

[sage-devel] Re: trying to define acsc(x), acsch(x) and friends

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 4:30 AM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Dan Drake wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to define inverse csc, sec, and cot and their hyperbolic > > versions. I dug through > > $SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage-main/build/sage/calculus/calculus.py a

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Dec 17, 2007 5:32 AM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't think that the trac 1460 is really fixed. The bug just got moved > around. > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1460 > > # sage 2.9 > sage: t=var('t') > sage: f=t*sin(0) > sage: float(f(1)) > # goes boom

[sage-devel] Re: trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 17, 2:32 pm, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Hi Joel, > I don't think that the trac 1460 is really fixed. The bug just got moved > around.http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1460 > > # sage 2.9 > sage: t=var('t') > sage: f=t*sin(0) > sage: float(f(1)) > # goes

[sage-devel] Re: Call for reviews, beginning 2.9.1

2007-12-17 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 17, 5:04 pm, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2.9.1 is due out on Saturday. I'd like to start with the following > tickets: > > - Possibly fixed or > invalid:http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/678http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1144http://trac.sagemath.org/sage

[sage-devel] Call for reviews, beginning 2.9.1

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Miller
2.9.1 is due out on Saturday. I'd like to start with the following tickets: - Possibly fixed or invalid: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/678 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1144 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1476 - Easy, should be done: http://trac.sagemath.org/sa

[sage-devel] trac 1460 -- t*sin(0)

2007-12-17 Thread Joel B. Mohler
Hi, I don't think that the trac 1460 is really fixed. The bug just got moved around. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1460 # sage 2.9 sage: t=var('t') sage: f=t*sin(0) sage: float(f(1)) # goes boom for a different reason than in 2.8.15 It seems the originally submitted patch by was h

[sage-devel] Re: trying to define acsc(x), acsch(x) and friends

2007-12-17 Thread David Harvey
On Dec 17, 2007, at 6:00 AM, Dan Drake wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to define inverse csc, sec, and cot and their hyperbolic > versions. I dug through > $SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage-main/build/sage/calculus/calculus.py and > thought I Hi Dan, I'm not sure if the following will solve your problem,

[sage-devel] trying to define acsc(x), acsch(x) and friends

2007-12-17 Thread Dan Drake
Hello, I'm trying to define inverse csc, sec, and cot and their hyperbolic versions. I dug through $SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage-main/build/sage/calculus/calculus.py and thought I could just use some identities and copy similar definitions for the other inverse trig functions. I tried this: class F