[sage-combinat-devel] Sage and the algebraic combinatorics community

2010-08-05 Thread Dan Drake
I'm currently at the Formal Power Series and Algebraic Combinatorics (FPSAC) conference, which is a major annual conference for, well, the algebraic combinatorics community. Earlier today I realized how quickly Sage has grown in this community: In 2007, Sage was not on the radar at all at FPSAC.

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Cayley graph connecting_set

2010-08-05 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Robert! On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:18:50AM -0400, Robert Miller wrote: Going through some graph theory stuff, I noticed that the documentation for cayley_graph mentions that the option connecting_set is deprecated, but it isn't really. Just thought I'd ping the combinat list about

Re: [sage-devel] Re: experimental packages

2010-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
On 5 August 2010 05:24, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 2, 4:58 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: .. if the difference between experimental and optional could be clarified.

[sage-devel] Re: trac server

2010-08-05 Thread Niles
Last week I couldn't get it to load at all from Oberwolfach (kept timing out); I didn't have any other internet problems there, and now trac is working fine for me from Georgia (U.S.) -Niles -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] What components of Sage would most benefit from SPARC assembly code?

2010-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
Following a talk I gave at the London OpenSolaris User Group (LOSUG), I had some discussions with someone who knows SPARC assembler, and would be willing to devote some time to addling SPARC assembly support. The question I have, is where would his efforts be best directed? Pari, Flint, MPIR,

[sage-devel] Re: What components of Sage would most benefit from SPARC assembly code?

2010-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
On 5 August 2010 09:00, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Following a talk I gave at the London OpenSolaris User Group (LOSUG), I had some discussions with someone who knows SPARC assembler, and would be willing to devote some time to addling SPARC assembly support. The question I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: experimental packages

2010-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Harald, On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: Personally. if I could define it, I would use these definitions: Consider moving your definition to the Sage Developer's Guide. This is now ticket 9690: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9690 --

Re: [sage-devel] Cloning is frustratingly slow

2010-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Fredrik, Here's a simplistic way that doesn't involve cloning or queues. Compile Sage from source on your machine and wrap up a binary for that machine with $ ./sage -bdist x.y.z-description The resulting binary then appears under SAGE_ROOT/dist/. Copy/move that binary to somewhere safe so

[sage-devel] what if SAGE_ROOT/local != SAGE_LOCAL ?

2010-08-05 Thread cschwan
Hi, our work with sage-on-gentoo has seen great progress - we are now able to supply fully working and recent versions of Sage which live in / usr. We did this (among other things) by setting SAGE_LOCAL=/usr SAGE_ROOT=/usr/share/sage This enables Sage to put all scripts and binaries into

Re: [sage-devel] what if SAGE_ROOT/local != SAGE_LOCAL ?

2010-08-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Christopher, On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:49 PM, cschwan csch...@students.uni-mainz.de wrote: The problem is that in Sage's sources and scripts $SAGE_ROOT/local is often used instead of $SAGE_LOCAL which breaks Sage when these variables are set as written above, of course. Now my question:

[sage-devel] Re: what if SAGE_ROOT/local != SAGE_LOCAL ?

2010-08-05 Thread cschwan
There are six python files which would need a patch and more than five (we need only small numbers of scripts from sage_scripts). You may have look and the patches here: - http://www.students.uni-mainz.de/cschwan/sage-baselayout-4.5.1-fix-SAGE_LOCAL.patch -

[sage-devel] Re: What components of Sage would most benefit from SPARC assembly code?

2010-08-05 Thread Bill Hart
The single biggest improvement in my mind would be made to MPIR. And I know the MPIR devels would absolutely love to have them contribute. Jason and Brian have been working very hard on simplifying MPIR so that it can be more easily modified. There are some instances in flint that would benefit.

Re: [sage-devel] Help us test Cython?

2010-08-05 Thread Mitesh Patel
On 08/04/2010 03:10 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Mitesh Patel qed...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/30/2010 01:54 AM, Craig Citro wrote: So we're currently working on a long-overdue release of Cython with all kinds of snazzy new features. However, our automated testing

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-vmware-4.4.alpha0.zip Corrupted?

2010-08-05 Thread Sazzad
Well, all running soomthly. :) A lot of thanks to Dr. David Kirkby. copy /b xaa+xab+xac .. xdu worked. I didn't have to create part1, part2... But, sage on vmware seems a bit slow :( by the way, storing sage on a FAT32 partion was the main problem. Therefore, never keep sage on FAT32 :) On

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days 25 -- IRC support needed

2010-08-05 Thread Harald Schilly
On 5 Aug., 06:12, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: 4:30pm-8:00pm Mumbai, India time That's 1pm to 4:30pm in central europe with summer time. I'll try to be available on IRC, c'ya there and hello India :D H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To

[sage-devel] Re: Cloning is frustratingly slow

2010-08-05 Thread Johan S. R. Nielsen
2.  -tnew Not in the developer walkthrough since I didn't know about it when I wrote that.  Limited testing indicates it looks for changed files in the mercurial repository that have not been commit'ed and tests those.  It strikes me that looking for dependencies is a big job - there is no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: what if SAGE_ROOT/local != SAGE_LOCAL ?

2010-08-05 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2010/8/5 cschwan csch...@students.uni-mainz.de: Hi, There are six python files which would need a patch and more than five (we need only small numbers of scripts from sage_scripts). You may have look and the patches here: I agree that a s|SAGE_ROOT/foo|SAGE_FOO| is required, that is, not

Re: [sage-devel] doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, David You wrote 4 августа 2010 г., 14:49:47: 8: sage: maxima('asinh(1.0)') Expected: 0.881373587019543 Got: .8813735870195429 Clearly there is some numerical noise issues, which need to be investigated, but are probably trivial. I think that it is more than

Re: [sage-devel] ALGLIB spkg is released (second version)

2010-08-05 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, Carl. You wrote 3 августа 2010 г., 6:39:49: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Sergey Bochkanov sergey.bochka...@alglib.net wrote: My proposal is to make * boolean vector/matrix = GF(2), RDF (non-zero = True) * integer vector/matrix = RDF * real = RDF * complex = CDF One more

Re: [sage-devel] ALGLIB spkg is released (second version)

2010-08-05 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, Carl. You wrote 3 августа 2010 г., 6:39:49: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Sergey Bochkanov sergey.bochka...@alglib.net wrote: My proposal is to make * boolean vector/matrix = GF(2), RDF (non-zero = True) * integer vector/matrix = RDF * real = RDF * complex = CDF Forgot to

[sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/5/10 8:41 AM, Sergey Bochkanov wrote: Hello, David You wrote 4 августа 2010 г., 14:49:47: 8: sage: maxima('asinh(1.0)') Expected: 0.881373587019543 Got: .8813735870195429 Clearly there is some numerical noise issues, which need to be investigated, but are probably

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, Jason. You wrote 5 августа 2010 г., 20:17:11: (depending on problem and its stability properties). However I don't know how to do it using doctest framework. Python tries to output numbers with full precision,and there is no way to tell doctest framework to compare decimal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
2010/8/5 Sergey Bochkanov sergey.bochka...@alglib.net: Hello, Jason. You wrote 5 августа 2010 г., 20:17:11: (depending  on  problem and its stability properties). However I don't know  how  to  do  it  using doctest framework. Python tries to output numbers  with  full  precision,and  there  

[sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Aug 5, 6:44 pm, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: 2010/8/5 Sergey Bochkanov sergey.bochka...@alglib.net: Hello, Jason. You wrote 5 августа 2010 г., 20:17:11: (depending  on  problem and its stability properties). However I don't know  how  to  do  it  using doctest

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Sergey Bochkanov
Hello, David. You wrote 5 августа 2010 г., 20:44:53: With all the numerical noise issues I've seen in Sage, the three dots solves its. So if we expect 1.00 but get 1.01 we can change that to 1.0... and the test will pass. However, what if we get

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread David Kirkby
On 5 August 2010 17:57, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 5, 6:44 pm, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: With all the numerical noise issues I've seen in Sage, the three dots solves its. So if we expect 1.00 but get 1.01 we can change that to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:44 AM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: With all the numerical noise issues I've seen in Sage, the three dots solves its. So if we expect 1.00 but get 1.01 we can change that to 1.0... and the test will pass.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: BTW, do you have any ideas why the second failure at #9099 might occur sage -t  -long devel/sage/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx ** File

[sage-devel] Re: Bug#573538: Packaging again sagemath

2010-08-05 Thread Tim Abbott
Hello all, I'm the maintainer of the sagemath package. Due to the package taking 8 months to get through NEW (resulting in it starting out 8 months out of date) and my founding a startup around the time it entered NEW, I've never had the time to update it across the original 8 months of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: complementary problem

2010-08-05 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Aug-04 14:51:21 -0700, Nils Bruin nbr...@sfu.ca wrote: There are other areas of mathematics where gets used for proper inclusion. A group theorist is going to be very surprised if for two groups H,G, the expression H G is valid but does not mean H is a subgroup of G. I expect this is

[sage-devel] A sage development utility?

2010-08-05 Thread VictorMiller
I find that in writing python code for inclusion into SAGE that I always need to add lines like: from foo import baz,faz,buz to the top of my file, in order to get standard SAGE things such as ZZ, QQ, factor, randint, etc. etc. known to the code. The way I've been doing that is to look at my

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days 25 -- IRC support needed

2010-08-05 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi There, There are going to be a couple of hours of coding sprints each day at Sage Days 25 in India (Mon - Thur this coming week): http://wiki.sagemath.org/daysindia25/schedule However, unfortunately, there might not be any experienced Sage developers there (I'm not able

[sage-devel] Sympow on Linux Itanium

2010-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Has sympow been tested on Itanium Linux much? Anyone that reads sage-solaris will know John Palmieri has got Sage building on fulvia (Solaris x86), but has some problems with sympow. I decided to have a look at the sympow source code. It's not the easiest code to follow, for various reasons.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/ 5/10 06:17 PM, Sergey Bochkanov wrote: Hello, Hmmm... Didn't thought about this situation yet. Definitely we can't solve this problem with any kind of regular expressions. One possible solution is to round data before printing. So both 1.01 and

[sage-devel] Re: A sage development utility?

2010-08-05 Thread Simon King
Hi Victor, On 5 Aug., 23:37, VictorMiller victorsmil...@gmail.com wrote: I find that in writing python code for inclusion into SAGE that I always need to add lines like: from foo import baz,faz,buz to the top of my file, in order to get standard SAGE things such as ZZ, QQ, factor, randint,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: complementary problem

2010-08-05 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:06:33 +1000, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote: On 2010-Aug-04 14:51:21 -0700, Nils Bruin nbr...@sfu.ca wrote: There are other areas of mathematics where gets used for proper inclusion. A group theorist is going to be very surprised if for two groups H,G, the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/ 5/10 06:55 PM, Carl Witty wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM, David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: BTW, do you have any ideas why the second failure at #9099 might occur sage -t -long devel/sage/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 08/ 5/10 06:17 PM, Sergey Bochkanov wrote: Hello, Hmmm... Didn't thought about this situation yet. Definitely we can't solve  this  problem  with  any  kind  of  regular  expressions. One possible  solution  

Re: [sage-devel] Sympow on Linux Itanium

2010-08-05 Thread Jason B Hill
Has sympow been tested on Itanium Linux much? Itanium versions exist in the repositories for Debian (Lenny/Sid), Ubuntu and Fedora. So, the short answer is yes. If I'm not mistaken, that script will include x86 based code for the floating point processor (in the file fpu.c) if the system is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A sage development utility?

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: I think it is easier to do  from sage.all import ZZ instead of providing its exact location (from sage.rings.integer...). Moreover, using sage.all

Re: [sage-devel] Re: doctest failure with leading zero not printing

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 08/ 5/10 06:17 PM, Sergey Bochkanov wrote: Hello, Hmmm... Didn't thought about this situation yet. Definitely we can't solve  this  

Re: [sage-devel] Cloning is frustratingly slow

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fredrik, Here's a simplistic way that doesn't involve cloning or queues. Compile Sage from source on your machine and wrap up a binary for that machine with $ ./sage -bdist x.y.z-description The resulting binary

Re: [sage-devel] Help us test Cython?

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Mitesh Patel qed...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/04/2010 03:10 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Mitesh Patel qed...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/30/2010 01:54 AM, Craig Citro wrote: So we're currently working on a long-overdue release of Cython

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What components of Sage would most benefit from SPARC assembly code?

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Bill Hart goodwillh...@googlemail.com wrote: The single biggest improvement in my mind would be made to MPIR. And I know the MPIR devels would absolutely love to have them contribute. Jason and Brian have been working very hard on simplifying MPIR so that it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How does real_lazy work?

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Marco Streng marco.str...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Bradshaw schreef: What should be done is either fixing LazyNamedUnop to preserve documentation, or populating these methods at class creation time (rather than attribute lookup time, perhaps dynamically creating