Re: [sage-devel] vote for making nauty a standard package (Re: About license of nauty and poset generator)

2016-01-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 07:16:45 UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-01-21 00:29, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Surely, if the official nauty got another licence it would have solved > > the problem easier. > > Maybe you could ask McKay if he is willing to license *every* version of > nau

Re: [sage-devel] Broken --docbuild --warn-links

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Is it just me, or do you also get an error from > > ./sage --docbuild --warn-links all html The day this works, champagne is on me. At some point I "cleaned" some foder I care for: graphs/, numerical/mip and combinat/designs/. Maybe a couple of broken links have been added since. Nathann --

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
>Do you want DiGraph to have methods like rank or is_chain? Of course not. The idea was to have Poset carry a DiGraph _hasse_diagram instead of a HasseDiagram object, and to [move/merge] the methods from HasseDiagram with their Poset counterparts. > Also, by > implementing them directly into

[sage-devel] Broken --docbuild --warn-links

2016-01-21 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
Is it just me, or do you also get an error from ./sage --docbuild --warn-links all html ? -- Jori Mäntysalo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 7:46:43 AM UTC+1, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 5:48:40 PM UTC+1, Buck Evan wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 22:11 Nils Bruin wrote: >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16697at ticket. >>> >> Typo: This proposal *closes* (w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:13:57 PM UTC+1, Nils Bruin wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, the "n" in ginac indicates it does *not* concern > itself with rewriting questions such as the one you're asking about (you > may well find that to do the rewrites properly, you need groebner bases or >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 5:48:40 PM UTC+1, Buck Evan wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 22:11 Nils Bruin wrote: >> >>> >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16697at ticket. >>> >> > Typo: This proposal *closes* (would close) that ticket. > That ticket can only be closed whenever the SymPy ve

Re: [sage-devel] Plots in plot.py documentation

2016-01-21 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016, jhonrubia6 wrote: Does it makes sense to you if I modify the plot.py docstrings in order to include PLOT:: blocks? Wouldn't it be more clear for newbies? Of course it would. And same applies to different plot()-functions; at least graphs and posets have these. -- Jori M

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2016-01-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:50:46AM +, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > For the improvements to the libgap interface I am working on this > week Btw, for the curious: https://github.com/nthiery/sage-gap-semantic-interface/blob/master/gap_sage.py Cheers, Nico

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2016-01-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hey, Just a brief followup on this thread. For the improvements to the libgap interface I am working on this week, I need _div_ and __div__ to be available for all elements of a (unital ...) multiplicative structure; not just those inheriting for RingElement etc. So I added those methods

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Buck Evan
Fredrik: Thank you for your thoughtful reply! On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:48 PM Fredrik Johansson < fredrik.johans...@gmail.com> wrote: > Arb (which is now in Sage) permits computing incomplete gamma > functions with rigorous error bounds over arbitrary-precision > real/complex (interval) fields.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:01 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi Buck, > > I asked Mike Rubinstein, who has implemented the incomplete Gamma > function in various situations (e.g., I think he did the first ever > open source implementation that was general enough for me to use for > my research), writte

[sage-devel] Re: Plots in plot.py documentation

2016-01-21 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:45:31 PM UTC-6, jhonrubia6 wrote: > > Does it makes sense to you if I modify the plot.py docstrings in order to > include PLOT:: blocks? Wouldn't it be more clear for newbies? (well it wold > have helped me anyway) > Has it been discussed? > Javier > I believ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
> > So, as Jori asked, what would be wrong in *not* having a HasseDiagram > class at all? A Poset object could carry a _hasse_diagram digraph, and > all methods would be poset methods. > > Right now, there are two classes where a Poset method can be > implemented: Poset, and HasseDiagram. And

Re: [sage-devel] Plots in plot.py documentation

2016-01-21 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
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Re: [sage-devel] Plots in plot.py documentation

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello, > Does it makes sense to you if I modify the plot.py docstrings in order to > include PLOT:: blocks? Wouldn't it be more clear for newbies? (well it wold > have helped me anyway) To me it makes sense. Illustrating with pictures the output of commands meant to produce pictures cannot exactl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello, I understand the wisdom of not having Poset inherit from DiGraph, as you don't want to be bothered with the DiGraph methods and their different terminology. I also understand that you need to keep a digraph around, possibly integer-labelled. So, as Jori asked, what would be wrong in *not*

Re: [sage-devel] https on the wiki

2016-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > there is also an issue with passwords not connected to trac accounts > anymore, though i do not know how this connection was set up (ldap?), and > why it was unset. > > I do not have access to the wiki VM but i know there are some people >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread William Stein
Hi Buck, I asked Mike Rubinstein, who has implemented the incomplete Gamma function in various situations (e.g., I think he did the first ever open source implementation that was general enough for me to use for my research), written papers mentioning issues, etc., what he thinks, and here's his r

[sage-devel] Plots in plot.py documentation

2016-01-21 Thread jhonrubia6
Does it makes sense to you if I modify the plot.py docstrings in order to include PLOT:: blocks? Wouldn't it be more clear for newbies? (well it wold have helped me anyway) Has it been discussed? Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
> > Right now the development is designed in what I think is a really > > senseless way: every features requires two new functions: > > - One on HasseDiagram which does the job > > - One on Poset which calls it > > We may have a situation where implementation needs functions f, g and h, > an

Re: [sage-devel] https on the wiki

2016-01-21 Thread Thierry
Hi, there is also an issue with passwords not connected to trac accounts anymore, though i do not know how this connection was set up (ldap?), and why it was unset. I do not have access to the wiki VM but i know there are some people getting organized in the admin of ask.sagemath.org (which is en

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hey Nathann and Jori, On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 3:14:09 AM UTC-6, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > The former is when the Poset is acting as an adapter class, and the > latter > > is something where there either is no analog currently on the backend > (there > > might be no gain because there

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Torrent file downloads from http://www.sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html fails with HTTP error 404

2016-01-21 Thread Karl-Philipp Richter
Hi, Am 21.01.2016 um 20:02 schrieb Harald Schilly: > Do you remember where this broken link is? All links don't work. > The page you are looking for is here: > > http://files.sagemath.org/torrents.html This page works (all torrent links), thank you. -Kalle -- You received this message because

[sage-devel] Re: Torrent file downloads from http://www.sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html fails with HTTP error 404

2016-01-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Do you remember where this broken link is? The page you are looking for is here: http://files.sagemath.org/torrents.html -- harald On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 8:01:04 PM UTC+1, Karl-Philipp Richter wrote: > > Hi, > FYI all downloads of `.torrent` files from > http://www.sagemath.org/mir

[sage-devel] Torrent file downloads from http://www.sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html fails with HTTP error 404

2016-01-21 Thread Karl-Philipp Richter
Hi, FYI all downloads of `.torrent` files from http://www.sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html fails with HTTP error 404. -Kalle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Nils Bruin
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 12:18:18 AM UTC-8, Buck Evan wrote: > > > In terms of numerics though, it would be beneficial to get sage to > simplify to the regularized function before computation. I can't see how > this can happen under the above scheme. > You could consider the incomplete g

Re: [sage-devel] https on the wiki

2016-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > +1 to letsencrypt, which was already discussed in this sage-devel discussion > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-devel/l9zS4IPioPE/discussion > > related link > https://vincent.composieux.fr/article/install-configure-and-automatically-

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Buck Evan
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 12:18:18 AM UTC-8, Buck Evan wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 22:11 Nils Bruin > > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:25:59 PM UTC-8, Buck Evan wrote: >>> >>> I've written up a proposal in this google document, and set it to be >>> globally read

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Version 7.0 and doc without test blocks

2016-01-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:46:35 PM UTC-8, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > Does this patch fix it? > > > --- a/src/doc/common/conf.py > > > > See sage.misc.sagedoc.skip_TESTS_block for more information. > > """ > > +if le

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Trac Account

2016-01-21 Thread kcrisman
Sometimes this takes some time, as the people monitoring this account also have jobs, families, etc. Also sometimes people are rather vague about their plans, and as we have unfortunately had problems with spam we ask for at least a little specificity, which not everyone provides. I have taken

Re: [sage-devel] Bug: rational point on a conic triggers a segfault

2016-01-21 Thread Pierre
Thanks ! On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:55:41 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > Fixed in PARI master (not in Sage yet). > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016, Nathann Cohen wrote: Right now the development is designed in what I think is a really senseless way: every features requires two new functions: - One on HasseDiagram which does the job - One on Poset which calls it We may have a situation where implementation needs functi

Re: [sage-devel] https on the wiki

2016-01-21 Thread Samuel Lelievre
+1 to letsencrypt, which was already discussed in this sage-devel discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-devel/l9zS4IPioPE/discussion related link https://vincent.composieux.fr/article/install-configure-and-automatically-renew-let-s-encrypt-ssl-certificate Who can give mmarco the appro

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ring creation involved in coercion

2016-01-21 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-01-21 02:35, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Vincent Delecroix > <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > For completeness (when somebody finds this via a search) if you follow > the trac ticket, you'll see the nice simple code Vincent just wrote: > > def _pushout_(

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rationale behind HasseDiagram class

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
> The former is when the Poset is acting as an adapter class, and the latter > is something where there either is no analog currently on the backend (there > might be no gain because there is no analog (di)graph function or > translation cost). It depends on the situation and is just trying to be >

[sage-devel] Re: GF(16,'x') when we do not care about the 'x'

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
A ticket has been created (needs_review) http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19929 Nathann On 20 January 2016 at 21:40, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I write a lot of code that requires me to build finite fields, and the > finite fields F_q, when q is not a prime number, cannot be

Re: [sage-devel] GF(16,'x') when we do not care about the 'x'

2016-01-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 3:26:55 AM UTC+1, William wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:20 PM, William Stein > wrote: > > Nils -- many thanks for your post explaining the longterm perspective > > and underlying reasons why things are the way they are. > > > > I mentioned this thread

Re: [sage-devel] Re: gamma function enhancement proposal

2016-01-21 Thread Buck Evan
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 22:11 Nils Bruin wrote: > On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:25:59 PM UTC-8, Buck Evan wrote: >> >> I've written up a proposal in this google document, and set it to be >> globally readable, commentable. >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zEzIz0TCgC1aEKCQmHQkI5EVL