[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-29 Thread David Joyner
Thank you all for your great comments. I'm working on a new draft now. You all have provided very useful suggestions. On 5/29/07, Mark van Hoeij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, William, > > Thanks for getting started with this whitepaper project. I think that > what Bob Grafton wants to do w

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-29 Thread David Harvey
On May 29, 2007, at 11:02 AM, William Stein wrote: > In fact, the Mathematica documentation has something to say about this > (see > http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/tutorial/ > WhyYouDoNotUsuallyNeedToKnowAboutInternals.html): > > "Particularly in more advanced applications of Mathem

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-29 Thread William Stein
OK, I can't help but respond to this On 5/28/07, Richard Fateman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FOI act request is not likely to work. > Who is going to provide the information? The NSF does not audit all grants > down to the level where it could say if money in the budget was actually > s

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-29 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, just two quick remarks: > open-source (As defined by http://www.opensource.org/.) On page two you quote OSI's OS definition and assume that everybody is familiar with the term open-source as they define it. This is definitely not the case as the OSI definition requires more than jus

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-29 Thread Michel
> Some variant of this is definitely worth thinking about much more, since > it is one of the standard models for open source software (which is > now tried and tested, and does work if one is providing a genuinely > useful service). For example, we could officially sell support > for SAGE at t

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-28 Thread William Stein
> On 5/28/07, Emil Volcheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe we need to devise a concept of "support license" for OSCAS by > > which a researcher can voluntarily allocate part of their grant to > > contribute to the development effort for OSCAS. I think of "support > > license" as a term of a

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-28 Thread benjamin antieau
A minor correction. On page 2, line -4 the word read is repeated. On May 28, 8:39 pm, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Emil, SAGE developers: > > Following a suggestion of Emil Volcheck of ACM/SIGSAM and Bob Grafton > of NSF, and William and I have drafted a "white paper" on NFS f

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-28 Thread David Joyner
On 5/28/07, Emil Volcheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, David. > > I applaud your quick work. I've forwarded your message to the SIGSAM > Officers list as well as to our white paper committee. > > I'll get back to you with comments on your draft within two weeks. > > Thank you for includin

[sage-devel] Re: NSF white paper draft - call for comments

2007-05-28 Thread mabshoff
On May 29, 3:39 am, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Emil, SAGE developers: > > Following a suggestion of Emil Volcheck of ACM/SIGSAM and Bob Grafton > of NSF, and William and I have drafted a "white paper" on NFS funding > of mathematical software. It is > athttp://sage.math.was