Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-07 Thread Jose Guzman
Harald, I would be more than happy to participate in such a thing here in Wien! Just let me know how can I help... On 29 September 2013 16:41, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM, John Cremona > wrote: > > +Bristol perhaps. Yes, enough people. I'm not sure what such a gr

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-04 Thread rjf
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 10:17:42 AM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > > rjf > writes: > > On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:42:43 PM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. > > > > Why would you necessarily know about this? > > I don't kn

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-03 Thread Keshav Kini
john_perry_usm writes: > On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, Keshav Kini wrote: > > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. I've > never > heard theorem-proving people talk about making use of existing > computer > algebra systems and I can't imagin

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-03 Thread Keshav Kini
rjf writes: > On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:42:43 PM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. > > Why would you necessarily know about this? I don't know, why would I? > I am well aware > that Maxima, a component of Sage, has been used to g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-03 Thread rjf
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:17:18 AM UTC-7, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > For what my department was > doing, MATLAB was just as useful, and much more cost-effective. > Then obviously you should not be using mathematica. You might consider using Octave which is similar to Matlab but free,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-03 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 October 2013 05:42, john_perry_usm wrote: > On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:42: > He's shown off some pretty impressive stuff. If I could afford Mathematica > (in terms of energy and time as well as money) I might be interested in > learning about it. It is expensive. Wolfram Research's prices

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-02 Thread rjf
On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:42:43 PM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > > > > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. Why would you necessarily know about this? I am well aware that Maxima, a component of Sage, has been used to generate proofs. I assume it is not the only

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-01 Thread john_perry_usm
On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, Keshav Kini wrote: > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. I've never > heard theorem-proving people talk about making use of existing computer > algebra systems and I can't imagine how they could be useful in the > business of

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-01 Thread Keshav Kini
Julien Puydt writes: > Le 01/10/2013 08:42, Keshav Kini a écrit : >> But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. I've never >> heard theorem-proving people talk about making use of existing computer >> algebra systems and I can't imagine how they could be useful in the >> business

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-10-01 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 01/10/2013 08:42, Keshav Kini a écrit : > But as far as I know, Sage is not proof-aware in any way. I've never > heard theorem-proving people talk about making use of existing computer > algebra systems and I can't imagine how they could be useful in the > business of well-founded theorem provi

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread Keshav Kini
rjf writes: > On Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:53:07 AM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > > > > Could you elaborate on what relevance you see Sage having to > truth > maintenance and theorem proving? > > > Typically the people who work in these areas feel that they have a > great

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread rjf
On Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:53:07 AM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: > > > > Could you elaborate on what relevance you see Sage having to truth > maintenance and theorem proving? > > Typically the people who work in these areas feel that they have a great deal to offer to mathematicians. See th

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread rjf
On Monday, September 30, 2013 5:13:12 AM UTC-7, kcrisman wrote: > > > Hi - I didn't see these responses, my RSS only updates now if there's a > new *thread*, very annoying... > > There are several models for rationales for gatherings. It might pay to >> distinguish among them. >> > > Exactly.

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread Nils Bruin
On Monday, September 30, 2013 12:26:51 PM UTC-7, telugujoshi wrote: > > Just thought of a name for Sage user group - uSage. > Nice play on words. Also the similarity to "U-pick" orchards seems an appropriate allusion to what using sage in the less polished areas often feels like. Perhaps for th

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread telugujoshi
On Friday, September 27, 2013 4:29:19 PM UTC-5, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Friday, September 27, 2013 7:30:23 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: >> >> Thoughts? >> > > There exists this model of "user groups" with regular meetings. "Hello, > I'm addicted to Sage for 1 1/2 years. Please help me with my

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-30 Thread kcrisman
Hi - I didn't see these responses, my RSS only updates now if there's a new *thread*, very annoying... There are several models for rationales for gatherings. It might pay to > distinguish among them. > Exactly. I have no problem with the idea of Sage user groups - the local R user group is

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-29 Thread Keshav Kini
rjf writes: > 5. Assemblies of people who study large computer systems, parallel > computing, software techniques for > compilation, truth maintenance, theorem proving, etc ... in which > Sage is some kind of example of a > problem and solution which can be explained to others and others can > off

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-29 Thread rjf
There are several models for rationales for gatherings. It might pay to distinguish among them. 1. Assemblies of people who are devoted to the advancement of the computer software that is the Sage "main line" of python code, used to glue together the collection of other systems from which it is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM, John Cremona wrote: > +Bristol perhaps. Yes, enough people. I'm not sure what such a group > is intended for or what it would do though. I think I'll make an overview page in the next days. @John: I have a broad experience with user groups, and I can tell you

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-29 Thread John Cremona
On 29 September 2013 08:15, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On 2013-09-28, Harald Schilly wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:16:55 AM UTC+2, Thierry >> (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 04:35:25PM -0700, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >>> > Actually we're trying to r

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2013-09-28, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:16:55 AM UTC+2, Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 04:35:25PM -0700, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: >> > Actually we're trying to run a monthly Sage users meeting in Paris, ... >> >> More d

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-28 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:16:55 AM UTC+2, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 04:35:25PM -0700, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > > Actually we're trying to run a monthly Sage users meeting in Paris, ... > > More details on http://wiki.sagemath.org/GroupeUtilisat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-28 Thread Thierry
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 04:35:25PM -0700, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: > Actually we're trying to run a monthly Sage users meeting in Paris, > France, spanning over an afternoon, providing help for Sage installation, a > general introduction to Sage, a thematic presentation and a coding/help > sessi

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, September 27, 2013 11:29:19 PM UTC+2, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Friday, September 27, 2013 7:30:23 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: >> >> Thoughts? >> > > There exists this model of "user groups" with regular meetings. "Hello, > I'm addicted to Sage for 1 1/2 years. Please help me with my

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Friday, September 27, 2013 7:30:23 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > > Thoughts? > There exists this model of "user groups" with regular meetings. "Hello, I'm addicted to Sage for 1 1/2 years. Please help me with my integrals ... " For "R", there is at least this long list: http://blog.revolutionan

[sage-devel] Re: motivation: here's one reason your contributions to Sage matter...

2013-09-27 Thread kcrisman
On Friday, September 27, 2013 12:59:30 PM UTC-4, William wrote: > > From somebody: > > "Does anyone know about workshops to train faculty to use/teach SAGE > (ie uses related to the undergraduate course contents)? We are not > able to afford the Mathematica site license (no help from other cam