Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-11-04 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Stefan wrote: > Discussion in the hallway with a colleague the other day (paraphrased): > > Colleague: "So, is Sage working yet on the latest OS X?" > Me: "Mixed signals. People get errors, it seems to work if you enable root > again" > Colleague: "Oh no, I don't w

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-11-03 Thread Stefan
Discussion in the hallway with a colleague the other day (paraphrased): Colleague: "So, is Sage working yet on the latest OS X?" Me: "Mixed signals. People get errors, it seems to work if you enable root again" Colleague: "Oh no, I don't want to do that. I guess I'll wait and se." Me: "You can us

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-30 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 6:49 PM, David Joyner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 5:10 PM, David Joyner wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Volker Braun wrote: >>> Are those the new binaries that I built with SAGE_FAT_BINARY=yes, or the >>> previous ones? The new md5sum is: >>> >>> $ md5 * >

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 5:10 PM, David Joyner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Volker Braun wrote: >> Are those the new binaries that I built with SAGE_FAT_BINARY=yes, or the >> previous ones? The new md5sum is: >> >> $ md5 * >> MD5 (sage-6.10.beta1-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.11-app.dmg) = >>

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > Are those the new binaries that I built with SAGE_FAT_BINARY=yes, or the > previous ones? The new md5sum is: > > $ md5 * > MD5 (sage-6.10.beta1-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.11-app.dmg) = > 879b8f796ffacc84a372987539a3fc4d > MD5 (sage-6.10.beta1-x86_64

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Volker Braun
Are those the new binaries that I built with SAGE_FAT_BINARY=yes, or the previous ones? The new md5sum is: $ md5 * MD5 (sage-6.10.beta1-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.11-app.dmg) = 879b8f796ffacc84a372987539a3fc4d MD5 (sage-6.10.beta1-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.11.dmg) = f5eba161c01c37aa0422519dd4f028d6 On

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Christian Nassau wrote: > On 25.10.2015 01:03, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> I've used that ticket to build relocatable OSX 10.11 binaries and uploaded >> them to http://files.sagemath.org/osx/intel/index.html. They work except you >> can't compile stuff on top of thes

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 5:49:45 PM UTC+1, William wrote: >> >> At least openssl very recently changed their license to be >> GPL-compatible, so it is legal to include with Sage... finally. > > > No they didn't; They announced their inte

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Volker Braun
On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 5:49:45 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > At least openssl very recently changed their license to be > GPL-compatible, so it is legal to include with Sage... finally. > No they didn't; They announced their intention but nothing has happened yet. Considering that they'l

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 10:13:39 AM UTC+1, François wrote: >> >> That explain why I had to change the configuration for git. >> No openssl headers, I have heard they are going to switch to libressl, > > > Not sure about that, they proba

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Volker Braun
On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 10:13:39 AM UTC+1, François wrote: > > That explain why I had to change the configuration for git. > No openssl headers, I have heard they are going to switch to libressl, > Not sure about that, they probably want everybody to use their own proprietary crypto fram

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Francois Bissey
That explain why I had to change the configuration for git. No openssl headers, I have heard they are going to switch to libressl, but even then, no headers? for something like ssl? François > On 25/10/2015, at 21:48, Volker Braun wrote: > > Ah yes forgot to set that environment variable during

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Volker Braun
Ah yes forgot to set that environment variable during build, so it requires a recent Core i-series processor. On an unrelated note, Apple dropped another giant t***d on us by not including the openssl headers any more. Only the dylib is in OSX 10.11, but without headers we can't compile agains

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-25 Thread Christian Nassau
On 25.10.2015 01:03, Volker Braun wrote: I've used that ticket to build relocatable OSX 10.11 binaries and uploaded them to http://files.sagemath.org/osx/intel/index.html. They work except you can't compile stuff on top of these binaries since the library install names are still wrong. In any c

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-24 Thread Volker Braun
I've used that ticket to build relocatable OSX 10.11 binaries and uploaded them to http://files.sagemath.org/osx/intel/index.html. They work except you can't compile stuff on top of these binaries since the library install names are still wrong. In any case feel free to test and report back...

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-24 Thread Volker Braun
This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19467 On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:52:13 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:42:52 AM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: >> >> IMO, this solution will work, but is not the best one. An installer that >> allows the user to selec

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-22 Thread Volker Braun
On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:42:52 AM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: > > IMO, this solution will work, but is not the best one. An installer that > allows the user to select the installation directory (which is then fixed) > is a better idea. > I don't really use OSX but afaik the preferred way is

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-21 Thread Ivan Andrus
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Michael Welsh wrote: > >> On 22/10/2015, at 0819, Christian Nassau wrote: >> >> On 21.10.2015 21:11, John H Palmieri wrote: >>> The latest beta version of Sage should build on OS X 10.11. It has a >>> serious limitation: you can't move the installation once it ha

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-21 Thread Michael Welsh
> On 22/10/2015, at 0819, Christian Nassau wrote: > > On 21.10.2015 21:11, John H Palmieri wrote: >> The latest beta version of Sage should build on OS X 10.11. It has a serious >> limitation: you can't move the installation once it has been built. I don't >> know if anyone is working on fixing

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-21 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 21 October 2015 at 20:59, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious. Is *anybody* reading this actually actively working on > (or planning to work on) making it Sage runs on the current version of > OS X ("El Capitan")? > > With the last OS X version, Sage got ported to work on it by me

[sage-devel] Sage on OS X: El Capitan

2015-10-21 Thread William Stein
Hi, I'm curious. Is *anybody* reading this actually actively working on (or planning to work on) making it Sage runs on the current version of OS X ("El Capitan")? With the last OS X version, Sage got ported to work on it by me buying Andrew Ohana [1] a nice laptop running on OS X on the conditi