Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-15 Thread kcrisman
> Anyone remember when g95 was shipped as part of sage for OS X? >> > > sure - in fact I even experimented with using R-supplied fortran instead, > on a PPC OSX laptop :-) > > >> Oh boy does that take me back! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 14/09/2016, at 23:34, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > did anyone try to build Sage with recent Xcode clang? Perhaps it would work > (one advantage is that it's faster). > One still would have to do something to provide fortran, though. > I decided to hack a bit to build with clang. ratpoints i

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 15/09/2016, at 09:38, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > native OSX toolchain is so far from Sage's-built toolchain on OSX that > interoperability > is a problem. I am not sure what you mean by that. Unless you are using an alternative libc code compiled by C compilers from any vendors can be mi

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 8:52:44 PM UTC, François wrote: > > On 15/09/16 08:23, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > FYI, R is normally built on OSX using clang (from XCode) and gfortran. > > Given the huge (compared to Sage) user base of R, it looks as if it > > should work quite > > well.

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread François Bissey
On 15/09/16 08:23, Dima Pasechnik wrote: FYI, R is normally built on OSX using clang (from XCode) and gfortran. Given the huge (compared to Sage) user base of R, it looks as if it should work quite well. And we can just steal their binary gfortran package... I have regular thoughts about that

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 12:15:18 PM UTC, François wrote: > > > > On 15/09/2016, at 00:00, Jeroen Demeyer > wrote: > > > > On 2016-09-14 13:34, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> One still would have to do something to provide fortran, though. > > > > Exactly, so it's pointless to build

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 15/09/2016, at 00:00, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2016-09-14 13:34, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> One still would have to do something to provide fortran, though. > > Exactly, so it's pointless to build Sage with clang since you won't be able > to compile any Fortran code. And I think that mi

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-09-14 13:34, Dima Pasechnik wrote: One still would have to do something to provide fortran, though. Exactly, so it's pointless to build Sage with clang since you won't be able to compile any Fortran code. And I think that mixing compiler suites (clang + gfortran) does not really work

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 14/09/2016, at 23:34, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > did anyone try to build Sage with recent Xcode clang? Perhaps it would work > (one advantage is that it's faster). > One still would have to do something to provide fortran, though. > Always the same problem: time. I know some stuff would w

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 8:37:47 AM UTC, François wrote: > > > > On 14/09/2016, at 20:31, Vincent Delecroix <20100.d...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > On 14/09/16 10:26, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > >> On 2016-09-14 10:18, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > >>> On 14/09/16 10:14, Jeroen Demeyer

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 14/09/2016, at 20:31, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 14/09/16 10:26, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> On 2016-09-14 10:18, Vincent Delecroix wrote: >>> On 14/09/16 10:14, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2016-09-14 10:07, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > Apparently, there nee

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 14/09/16 10:26, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2016-09-14 10:18, Vincent Delecroix wrote: On 14/09/16 10:14, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2016-09-14 10:07, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Apparently, there needs to be a libc with headers on the host to have anything related to compilation working properly.

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-09-14 10:18, Vincent Delecroix wrote: On 14/09/16 10:14, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2016-09-14 10:07, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Apparently, there needs to be a libc with headers on the host to have anything related to compilation working properly. Is that right? Obviously yes. You cannot

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 14/09/16 10:14, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2016-09-14 10:07, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Apparently, there needs to be a libc with headers on the host to have anything related to compilation working properly. Is that right? Obviously yes. You cannot compile C code without a working toolchain (th

Re: [sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2016-09-14 10:07, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Apparently, there needs to be a libc with headers on the host to have anything related to compilation working properly. Is that right? Obviously yes. You cannot compile C code without a working toolchain (this includes a compiler, assembler, linker

[sage-devel] libc mandatory for Sage dmg on OSX 10.11.6?

2016-09-14 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, I would like to install some Python package involving compilation through Cython (namely [1]). It seems to be broken with sage-7.3-OSX_10.11.6-x86_64.app.dmg installed on a computer with OS X 10.11.6 El Capitan. Sage does work from the command line and gcc is present. But it seems th