[sage-support] numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
How do I get a numeric approximation for symbolic expressions that have variables? I want to leave the variables alone, but get numeric approximations for all constants. For example, here's how it works in mathematica: In[1]:= a:=1+Sqrt[2]*x In[2]:= a Out[2]= 1 + Sqrt[2] x In[3]:= N[a] O

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do I get a numeric approximation for symbolic expressions that have > variables? I want to leave the variables alone, but get numeric > approximations for all constants. For example, here's how it works in > mathemat

[sage-support] Re: Cython editor

2008-10-10 Thread Pierre
> Do you have these changes posted somewhere? I'd like to try it out, if > possible. er, no, but here are a few hints. First try sage -grep "def" | grep "def " >~/.sage/sage_doc so you have a file in your .sage folder containing all the lines in SAGE's code containing the word "def " (i don't

[sage-support] Re: Cython editor

2008-10-10 Thread Pierre
alright, here's how you do the completion with gedit. It's not that it stopped working, it's just a bug i hadn't noticed before. There a quite a few flaws -- help appreciated if you know a way to improve on this ! so currently: -- only the last word on the line can be completed (true, it's usuall

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Jason Grout > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How do I get a numeric approximation for symbolic expressions that have >> variables? I want to leave the variables alone, but get numeric >> approximations for all constants. For example, here's

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:35:16 -0500 Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The general request still stands, though: is there a way to > numerically approximate all the constants in a symbolic expression, > but keep the variables as variables? The pynac based symbolics code does the following:

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:35:16 -0500 > Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The general request still stands, though: is there a way to >> numerically approximate all the constants in a symbolic expression, >> but keep the variables as variables? > > The pynac based s

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 10, 10:02 am, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:35:16 -0500 > > Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> The general request still stands, though: is there a way to > >> numerically approximate all the constants in a symbolic exp

[sage-support] math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread john_perry_usm
Hi, I'm working with a biologist on some data, and having trouble getting SAGE to solve quadratic polynomials with complicated coefficients. Using solve() returns nothing even when there is a solution, perhaps because sqrt() returns a "math range error". Does anyone have any advice on how to get

[sage-support] Re: math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread Mike Hansen
Hi John, On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM, john_perry_usm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working with a biologist on some data, and having trouble getting > SAGE to solve quadratic polynomials with complicated coefficients. > Using solve() returns nothing even when there is a solution, perhaps

[sage-support] Re: jsMath issue and solution with error code -7

2008-10-10 Thread Doug Bradshaw
Thanks! On Aug 24, 8:46 am, "Philippe Saade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > i post this here for future newbies who might encounter the same problem... > > ** on Linux/Ubuntu 8.04, under Firefox 2 or 3, with all TexFonts > installed, i kept having this error message : > > It looks like jsMa

[sage-support] Re: jsMath issue and solution with error code -7

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
Doug Bradshaw wrote: > Thanks! > > On Aug 24, 8:46 am, "Philippe Saade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> i post this here for future newbies who might encounter the same problem... >> >> ** on Linux/Ubuntu 8.04, under Firefox 2 or 3, with all TexFonts >> installed, i kept having this error

[sage-support] Re: jsMath issue and solution with error code -7

2008-10-10 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 10, 1:55 pm, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We really ought to include these fonts with Sage and have the error > message say: "Here are some fonts.  Install them.  If you want darker or > lighter variations, go here (link to the website)" #1608 :) > Jason Cheers, Michael

[sage-support] Re: math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread john_perry_usm
Sure. This fails in exactly the fashion I mean: sage: round(sqrt(1

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:35:16 -0500 > Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The general request still stands, though: is there a way to >> numerically approximate all the constants in a symbolic expression, >> but keep the variables as variables? > > The pynac based s

[sage-support] Re: math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread john_perry_usm
Try adding another 1. Apparently I copied & pasted the wrong one. On Oct 10, 6:01 pm, Marshall Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just get: > 1.05409255339e+154 > when I input your example. > > -M. Hampton > > On Oct 10, 5:24 pm, john_perry_usm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sure. This fail

[sage-support] Re: numeric approximations for symbolic expressions

2008-10-10 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 10, 3:48 pm, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any chance this could be merged into 3.1.3 to get wider > testing?  That is, if it's a purely optional framework.  Barring that, > is there a chance we could get a single huge patch that consolidates all > of this, or even

[sage-support] Re: math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread Marshall Hampton
I just get: 1.05409255339e+154 when I input your example. -M. Hampton On Oct 10, 5:24 pm, john_perry_usm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. This fails in exactly the fashion I mean: > sage: > round(sqrt(1

[sage-support] Re: math range error on sqrt()

2008-10-10 Thread mabshoff
On Oct 10, 4:04 pm, john_perry_usm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try adding another 1. Apparently I copied & pasted the wrong one. > I can reproduce it on a 64 bit box: sage: round(sqrt(1

[sage-support] Problem w/ min or me?

2008-10-10 Thread mcdewey
Given the following input; sage: var('x') sage: var('y') sage: e1 = (y + x + 2) sage: e2 = (y - x^2 + 2*x + 3) sage: e3 = (y + x + 42) sage: e4 = min(e1, e2, e3) sage: e4(-10, -10) I get the result -18. (the value of e1(-10, -10) I would expect to get -127 (the value of e2(-10,-10) I want the s

[sage-support] Re: Problem w/ min or me?

2008-10-10 Thread mcdewey
I am using version; 'SAGE Version 3.1.2, Release Date: 2008-09-19' mcdewey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit thi

[sage-support] Re: Problem w/ min or me?

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
mcdewey wrote: > Given the following input; > sage: var('x') > sage: var('y') > sage: e1 = (y + x + 2) > sage: e2 = (y - x^2 + 2*x + 3) > sage: e3 = (y + x + 42) > sage: e4 = min(e1, e2, e3) > sage: e4(-10, -10) > > I get the result -18. (the value of e1(-10, -10) > > I would expect to get -127

[sage-support] Re: Problem w/ min or me?

2008-10-10 Thread mcdewey
>  min is a builtin python function and isn't smart > about symbolic functions; it just returns the first thing when it comes > to symbolic expressions: > ... > I would do this like: > > sage: min(f(-10,-10) for f in [e1,e2,e3]) > -127 > > In other words, evaluate the functions before calling min.

[sage-support] Re: Problem w/ min or me?

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
mcdewey wrote: >> min is a builtin python function and isn't smart >> about symbolic functions; it just returns the first thing when it comes >> to symbolic expressions: >> > ... >> I would do this like: >> >> sage: min(f(-10,-10) for f in [e1,e2,e3]) >> -127 >> >> In other words, evaluate the fu

[sage-support] making an animation of an @interact

2008-10-10 Thread Jason Grout
(this might be mainly directed towards schilly): Is there an easy way to make an animation of an @interact as a slider goes through its values? Something like schilly's Taylor Series interact at http://wiki.sagemath.org/interact/calculus. Thanks, Jason --~--~-~--~~~

[sage-support] Re: Sage doctest randomness

2008-10-10 Thread Carl Witty
On Oct 10, 5:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ryan Hinton wrote: > > Jason, > > > I saw a suggestion recently on the sage list to set the random seed at > > the beginning of each doctest so previously "random" outputs could be > > tested.  I'm writing some 'pick a random member from this (very la

[sage-support] Re: Sage doctest randomness

2008-10-10 Thread jason-sage
Ryan Hinton wrote: > Jason, > > I saw a suggestion recently on the sage list to set the random seed at > the beginning of each doctest so previously "random" outputs could be > tested. I'm writing some 'pick a random member from this (very large) > set' routines, so I could use this functional