Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> However I'd argue that the problem with most PC games these days is > that they're either all "me too" products or they're infuriatingly > over-designed to the point that unless you're familiar with the genre, > they're impenetrable. These days games are generally far better put > together and de

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho Well, that's the thing innit? Pentium processors are bastard-fast so it's the last thing you think of. Obviously coding on the SAM is far more of an artform than anything I do on the PC because every T-state (or multiple of 4, anyway :) ) counts. The only assembler I did on t

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho When you don't have the power, you have to limit your options and while that sometimes leads to better design, it mostly leads to arse games. J   I mean if you look at most of the SAM Coupé's software it was generally not that great with only a few standout games that sh

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Yer, i miss that when im working on other platforms. So few machines you can still do that on :D A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin Piggot Sent: 03 January 2003 17:09 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Hi ho > RE: Hi hoDont have

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Title: RE: Hi ho thank you, ill take that as a compliment :D -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graham GoringSent: 03 January 2003 17:05To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'Subject: RE: Hi ho Right, you're clearly ALL mad. ;)  

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> RE: Hi hoDont have to worry about optimising... Now where is the fun in not > optimising, the best bit of programming is watching little coloured timer > bars flicker on the screen, and counting t states :D Ah yes... changing the palette to see how many lines the routines use very psychadeli

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> Right, you're clearly ALL mad. ;) Ah, is it really that obvious? :) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> I'd rather concentrate on the game design part of it myself, for me that's > the interesting bit about making games. :) Well, that has to be the main part but on the other hand, saving a few t-states isn't important when you have some 2GHz + monster to work with! Colin Quazar : Hardwar

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Title: RE: Hi ho But lets not get into the PC game war on the sam mailing list :D -   I still spend a good few hours playing stratosphere, bugs me that i cant get very far, it just keeps calling me back, to try and get a little further :D   A. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROT

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho Right, you're clearly ALL mad. ;)   -Original Message- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2003 17:03 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Hi ho   Dont have to worry about optimising... Now where is the fun in not optimising, th

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Title: RE: Hi ho Thats the problem with PC games these days though - most dont have any design :) when you dont have the power you have to have better design to compensate.   *Start Flame War* -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graha

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Title: RE: Hi ho Dont have to worry about optimising... Now where is the fun in not optimising, the best bit of programming is watching little coloured timer bars flicker on the screen, and counting t states :D -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]O

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho >Optimisation is the fun part! Getting down to the nitty gritty in assembler >is a >great way to spend the night ;) I'd rather concentrate on the game design part of it myself, for me that's the interesting bit about making games. :) Graham

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> I'll stick with my PC for now I think... Far more fun writing games on the > PC than the SAM (I don't have to worry about optimising ;) ). Optimisation is the fun part! Getting down to the nitty gritty in assembler is a great way to spend the night ;) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software,

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho >And remember, not every one is doing stuff for Sam for a financial gain. Well, I never did anything for FRED for money, it was all for the love of the machine on the SAM. Same thing with PC games, I only write 'em for fun and to remake Speccy classics. Graham

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho >Well disk drives can be easily replaced I'll stick with my PC for now I think... Far more fun writing games on the PC than the SAM (I don't have to worry about optimising ;) ). >Oh don't sound so pessemistic :) > >There is still life in the Sam world! In fact, over the

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
And remember, not every one is doing stuff for Sam for a financial gain. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin Piggot Sent: 03 January 2003 16:50 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Hi ho > Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Piggot
> Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon Avon at the moment > (I'm in Manchester) and I'm not even sure if it works any more. Certainly > the disc drive made odd whining sounds last time I tried using it... Well disk drives can be easily replaced > I'm surprised that Colin's working

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho Ta'. I think my actual SAM is in Stratford Upon Avon at the moment (I'm in Manchester) and I'm not even sure if it works any more. Certainly the disc drive made odd whining sounds last time I tried using it... I'm surprised that Colin's working on a FPS game for the SAM, thou

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Adrian Brown
Title: RE: Hi ho His site can be found at   http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/   If you have an actual Sam its worth digging it out and supporting it :)   Adrian -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Graham GoringSent: 03 January 2003

RE: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: RE: Hi ho I've not, but I did hear that Colin was still producing hardware for the SAM. Are there many active users still? The only time I look at SAM stuff is via emulation. I'm thinking of compiling a disc of all the best e-tunes in one lump... What's his website addy then? Graham

Re: Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Frans v. Egmond
Welcome back! Colin has launched a new paper Sam Coupe magazine, you could check that out, as well as several interesting new hardware bits... Have you looked at his site yet? Frans Graham Goring wrote: Hi ho Blimey, I was looking around for old Sam Coupé sites and I sudd

Hi ho

2003-01-03 Thread Graham Goring
Title: Hi ho Blimey, I was looking around for old Sam Coupé sites and I suddenly remembered the mailing list. So I just thought I'd drop in and see how/what everyone was doing? Obviously me and James Curry are still in contact but I've not heard hide nor hair from most ex Spam Soufflé owners i