Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-15 Thread John E. Malmberg
John E. Malmberg wrote: Jason Hihn wrote: Good comments, all of them. I hate to say it, but it really comes down to the fact that you are trying to hide behind a protocol, instead of doing a proper firewall for your LAN. No offense intended None is taken. *I* did not set it up this wa

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread John E. Malmberg
Jason Hihn wrote: Good comments, all of them. I hate to say it, but it really comes down to the fact that you are trying to hide behind a protocol, instead of doing a proper firewall for your LAN. No offense intended None is taken. *I* did not set it up this way, and I had thought of s

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread John E. Malmberg
Christopher R. Hertel wrote: On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:26:24PM -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote: Jason Hihn wrote: I've a need for Samba to work over NetBEUI. We have a file server here that only speaks that way to bar out TCP-based hackers, There is a popular misconception that you can use

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:26:24PM -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote: > Jason Hihn wrote: > > >I've a need for Samba to work over NetBEUI. We have a file server > >here that only speaks that way to bar out TCP-based hackers, > > There is a popular misconception that you can use NetBeui in this way.

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Steven French
I noticed references to interesting sounding netbeui patches for Linux kernel from Procom at: http://bazar.conectiva.com.br/~acme/patches/wip/ Based on the official kernel status looks like they won't make 2.5 though. Steve French Senior Software Engineer Linux Technology Center - IBM Au

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:20:38PM -0600, Jim Morris wrote: : > I am not telling you someone out there has not developed a NETBEUI > protocol stack that will run on Linux (I am assuming you are running > Linux). But as a long time network administrator and programmer > myself, I cannot imagine

RE: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Jason Hihn
Good comments, all of them. > I hate to say it, but it really comes down to the fact that you are > trying to hide behind a protocol, instead of doing a proper firewall for > your LAN. No offense intended None is taken. *I* did not set it up this way, and I had thought of some of the very sa

RE: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Jim Morris
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 08:42, Jason Hihn wrote: > Up until the other day we didn't have an internet-visible, Unix-based > host behind the router. We do now, so that is a concern of mine more > than ever. It sounds to me like you are relying on the ISP's router to protect you from the Internet. And

RE: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread David Brodbeck
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Hihn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > While I feel competent enough to make a solid firewall, our > router to the > internet is controlled by our ISP, and that is one trust > relationship that > would be sloppy of me to trust. Unfortunately, this box need

RE: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Jason Hihn
ill a good technique to hide the 'scent' of the box. Most "s|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John E. Malmberg Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NetBEUI as main protocol Jason Hihn wrote: > I've a need for Samba to work over NetB

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Jim Morris
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 03:24 AM, Gareth Davies wrote: Not sure what this thread is about exactly but if I catch the drift correctly you may well find this useful: http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/ Thanks - good resource if you need a boot floppy to get on the network. However, t

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-10 Thread Gareth Davies
- Original Message - From: "Jim Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John E. Malmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:24 AM Subject: Re: NetBEUI as main protocol > On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 08:

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-09 Thread Marty Leisner
I'm aware of someone hacked up samba years ago to run netbeui on freebsd... I looked at the samba code about 8 years ago for work with the idea of being able to run netbeui -- I was impressed someone got it to work -- tcp was more heavily embedded in stuff then I would have wanted to see (not sur

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Morris
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 08:26 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: The only advantage that I can see to running NetBeui is that a network recovery disk for most PCs using MS-DOS can fit on a high density floppy. Actually, you *CAN* make a DOS boot floppy and fit the MSClient 3.0 with TCP/IP s

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Morris
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Jason Hihn wrote: I am wondering if SAMBA can go over NetBEUI yet? I realize I'll probably have to re-compile my kernel (easy enough), but what if anything has to be done on the SAMBA side? Microsoft themselves have deprecated the NETBEUI protocol, an

Re: NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-09 Thread John E. Malmberg
Jason Hihn wrote: I've a need for Samba to work over NetBEUI. We have a file server here that only speaks that way to bar out TCP-based hackers, There is a popular misconception that you can use NetBeui in this way. There is no security advantage in use NetBEUI in this manor. It is just as ea

NetBEUI as main protocol

2002-12-09 Thread Jason Hihn
I've a need for Samba to work over NetBEUI. We have a file server here that only speaks that way to bar out TCP-based hackers, and now I need to move files between hat and the Linux box. Changing it to use TCP is out of my authority too. I've scoured the archives, and the most I could come up with