Re: [SC-L] Static Vs. Binary

2009-08-04 Thread John Steven
Pravir, HA! :D (Knowing me, you can predict what I’m about to say) YES, explaining what the tools will need to do correctly as they continue their next-generation isn’t useful to a practitioner on this list today. ... But, it is very important to understand-as a practitioner-what your too

Re: [SC-L] IBM Acquires Ounce Labs, Inc.

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Wysopal
I wouldn't say that NTO Spider is a "sort of" dynamic web scanner. It is a top tier scanner that can battle head to head on false negative rate with the big conglomerates' scanners: IBM AppScan and HP WebInspect. Larry Suto published an analysis a year ago, that certainly had some flaws (and w

Re: [SC-L] IBM Acquires Ounce Labs, Inc.

2009-08-04 Thread Arian J. Evans
Chris -- Good point with Larry's paper. NTO Spider is, by design, a simplified scanner for unskilled users, and I do not think it was designed to be an effective tool for deep dynamic analysis of a web application. It is, however, probably the best scanner on the market for people who don't have th

Re: [SC-L] IBM Acquires Ounce Labs, Inc.

2009-08-04 Thread Arian J. Evans
Great answer, John. I especially like your point about web.xml. This goes dually for black-box testing. There would be a lot of advantage to being able to get (and compare) these types of config files today for dialing in BBB (Better Black Box vs. blind black box) testing. I don't think anyone is