RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

RedHat is a company. Companies exist for the sole purpose of making money. Every action by any company -- literally every single action, ever -- is motivated by that goal. The question you should be asking is: How does Red Hat believe this move is going to make them money? Those were statements o

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

precisely, of being highly selective with the truth. Also again, I could be wrong. Time will tell. - Pat On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Andrew Z wrote: > Patrick, > Why do you think oracle's spinoff is their major competition? > > On Jan 14, 2014 12:47 PM, "Patri

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

So I decided to check the "Competition" section of Red Hat's annual SEC regulatory filing (10-K): http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087423/000119312513173724/d484576d10k.htm#tx484576_1 (see pages 11-13) "Oracle" and "Microsoft" are each mentioned seven times in this section, far more than

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Jos Vos wrote: > > This sounds as if this is bad: are you a communist? This sounds as if you have reading problems. Are you an illiterate? I have made no value judgments. I have made a few statements of fact and given a few opinions, and I have tried to be caref

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 15/01/14 19:49, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: >> >> >> - Red Hat (the company) considers Oracle (the company) one of their >> top two competitors. >> >> - Red Hat considers CentOS a competitor. &g

Re: [SL-Users] Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > > Red Hat does not "own" CentOS, either the product nor the project. Red > Hat does not own the various marks. Wrong. http://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/ "The CentOS Marks are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc." - Pat

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 01/15/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > > so, rather than looking at an opinion blog, why dont you go read the > actual announcement ? see if that mentions this little detail... Do you mean Red Hat's an

Re: [SL-Users] Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > I find it puzzling that official announcements say nothing > about CentOS trademarks, copyrights, etc being transferred > to Red Hat - as that web page seems to imply. It is also mentioned in Red Hat's FAQ: http://community.redhat.

Re: RedHat CentOS acquisition: stating the obvious

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Jos Vos wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:49:51AM -0800, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > >> [...] (Always remember that companies, >> like politicians, do not make statements to communicate information. >> They make statements to achieve

Re: Clarity on current status of Scientific Linux build

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > ??? That is not at all what I got from his reply. What I got was that CERN > will still be committing resources, but instead of duplicating effort > they're joining up with the CentOS effort. Whatever. The relevant questions are: (1) Will S

Re: Clarity on current status of Scientific Linux build

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:09 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2014-07-01 08:16, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > >> The *goal* of CentOS used to be binary compatibility, even if it was >> never 100% achieved. Since the acquisition by Red Hat, that is no >> longer even the goal, for obviou

Re: glibc-2.15-60.el6.x86_64.rpm

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > Assuming that the kernel has > not been built against glibc 2.15, is there any relatively simple way to > allow the user application to use the required glibc but to keep the kernel > and related systems binary programs on the glibc against wh

Re: kickstart packages question

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote: > > If I put in a group to be installed that includes a package I don't want to > install what's the proper way to set that up? Not sure about "proper", but I have found that "-Package" in the %packages section rarely does what I w

Current SL 6.5 security repo breaks X11 for Kickstart w/ updates

Executive summary: If you include "repo .../updates/security" in your 6.5 Kickstart config, add "xorg-x11-drivers" to your %packages section. ... For 6.6, Red Hat scattered the X server's driver modules into a ton of "xorg-x11-drv-*" packages and added a master "xorg-x11-drivers" that depends on

Re: Q&A: Centos vs SL

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jos Vos wrote: > > Red Hat did not buy CentOS. They employ the principals and own the trademark. Are you saying they got them for free?

Re: RSTe ???

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:59 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > Hi All, > > Intel's C224 chipset supports Intel's Rapid Storage > Technology Enterprise (RSTe). He "e" is for "Enterprise". > It can be used for RAID 0, 1, 10. > > Anyone have any experience with this? Good, bad, > indifferent? This is what

Re: RSTe ???

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:56 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > Hi Pat, > > Thank you! > > Would it be faster, slower, or about the same as a dedicated > LSI (or similar) controller when used in a high end workstation? It is the same as any other software RAID. If you do a search for "software RAID vs h

Re: nfsv4 and rpcidmapd

Possibly related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/526302 Assuming you are using FQDNs and the host's domain matches the Kerberos domain, it sounds like you can simply comment out the "Domain = " line in idmapd.conf. (I vaguely recall "localdomain" having special meaning

Re: SL 7.2

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > I'm getting more and more inclined to give SL 7 a complete miss, and see if > SL 8 will be contemporary enough to ease my backporting work. Or switch to a distribution with an explicit policy of "we will never adopt systemd". Do you k

Re: clang and Scientific Linux

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > > I have looked for solutions on the web and many are partial or requiring > complete source build of clang. Clang is actually pretty easy to build from source. And it comes with extensive unit tests, so if "make check" succeeds, you almost ce

Re: Q&A: Centos vs SL

(five years on...) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM Jos Vos wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:22:23PM -0600, davef...@protev.com wrote: > > > Now that Redhat has bought Centos... > > Red Hat did not buy CentOS. I guess he should have said "acquired". https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/ur

Re: Calibre current

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:02 PM Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > Calibre needs RuntimeError: Failed to load icu with error: > > /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.8' not found (required by > > /opt/calibre/lib/libicui18n.so.64) > > I'm running

Re: SL 6

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:21 AM Larry Linder < 0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > I would be interested in a contribution to help support this effort. > > We have a number of SL 6.9 boxes, we would stay there for a while as all > of our cad tools work. There are some thi

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

It has been almost exactly seven years since Red Hat bought CentOS ( https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_scientific-2Dlinux-2Dusers-40fnal.gov_msg01499.html&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m

Re: Rhel 8

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Was Torvalds behind SystemD, etc.? Just curious. Are you joking? systemd is the creation of Red Hat employee (and professional idiot) Lennart Poettering. Worst thing that ever happened to Linux.

Re: Rhel 8

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 5:28 AM Mark Rousell wrote: > > > It's difficult to say anything about SystemD without it becoming political/religious but my impression is that the bloat and mission creep that SystemD seems in many people's views to suffer from (i.e. it is no longer just an init system) i

Re: Pondering a switch to Debian

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:58 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > So - who else is contemplating a move to Debian? We will be following CERN and Fermilab's lead, whatever that is. But the longer we go without knowing, the more uncomfortable we get. Anybody have any inside information on their thinking?

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 5:45 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > It's getting harder. Singularity containers for CentOS 8 (and latest Ubuntu etc.) work fine on SL7, for now. Of course this is not a long-term solution, since "kernel too old" will surely crop up eventually. This is an awful decision b

devtoolset-12?

I usually get the "Developer Toolset" from the CentOS SCLO repo:

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] devtoolset-12?

e SL7 source repo because they > were needed to build the new firefox and thunderbird packages. > > I try to have the sources for our build chain up where folks can grab > them if they feel so inclined. > > Hope all is well > > (also) Pat > > On Mon, 2022-10-03 at 17:

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:45 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > - NFS-Root support. Last I tried, RHEL-8 would not NFS-boot without major > effort. Diskless clients (NFS root) are working fine for me with AlmaLinux 9.1. The main prerequisite is installing the "readonly-root" package. > - NIS suppo

Re: XFS vs Ext4

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:51 AM Paul Robert Marino wrote: > With NFS always go with EXT4 because NFS isn't compatible with 64bit inodes, so you need to disable a flag with XFS for "inode64" which means on files over 2GB XFS' will need to create multiple inodes instead of 1 at the beginning of the f

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 4:08 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia mailto:nka...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, > and even had some tools to switch Scientific Linux releases to the > matching CentOS re