Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2021-03-08 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Everything should be up to data again on the website. Thanks for the report! Pat On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 13:23 +, Patrick Riehecky wrote: > Hi Carel, > > Thanks for the report!  We will need to look into what is going on > there.  This is unexpected. > > Pat > > On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 10:19

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-06 Thread Yasha Karant
You state: That has nothing to do with Linux and Red Hat. I do not know why you bring it up. End excerpt. I respectfully disagree in so far as the issue concerns the future of whatever Linux (or other environment) that Fermilab/CERN and the "official" collaborations thereof use, and the HEP

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 8:31 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > To add. all official published results must be done using "official analysis", > and for the purposes of this discussion, said "official analysis" > often runs exclusively on RedHat-flavour linuxes. > > > > > Most HEP (and sometimes

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Yasha Karant
As for whether or not "legally binding" contracts/NDAs are used (that depends in part upon the nation under which legal system the collaborator may reside and/or that is providing the funding), the system is quite "political" and "power based", as indeed has appeared in a number of books. For

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
To add. all official published results must be done using "official analysis", and for the purposes of this discussion, said "official analysis" often runs exclusively on RedHat-flavour linuxes. > > Most HEP (and sometimes other) "academic" collaborations have > collaboration agreements for all

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Yasha Karant
Most HEP (and sometimes other) "academic" collaborations have collaboration agreements for all member institutions (or groups or individuals) that no work done by the collaboration may be published or discussed without permission from the collaboration, typically a set of PIs (often not a

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 4:09 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:27:07PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > Has anyone tried the Institute for Advanced Study Springdale (IAS) > > EL 8 distro? > > > > What for? I have my "16 free RHEL subscriptions" to run my 1 el8 machine

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> At some point ... Yasha you are writing some very strange stuff. > NDA collaboration contracts that exist for the various > CERN/Fermilab experiments ... if your NDA stands for "non-disclosure ...", then I must say that I do not believe there are any secret agreements between experiments and

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2021-03-05 Thread Yasha Karant
I too am suggesting one switches to Ubuntu LTS current production (20.4.x for all production x). The one issue that I have not been able to resolve: what is the installed base of LTS for real world production use? I know of several "smallish" list servers that are using LTS. Are others

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:27:07PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > Has anyone tried the Institute for Advanced Study Springdale (IAS) > EL 8 distro? > What for? I have my "16 free RHEL subscriptions" to run my 1 el8 machine for developing and supporting the MIDAS data acquisition package. As for

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-04 Thread Jon Pruente
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 3:23 AM Werf, C.G. van der (Carel) < 135eeb68b6b6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > Seems a recurring issue ... > > > > Any reason why >

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-04 Thread Yasha Karant
Has anyone tried the Institute for Advanced Study Springdale (IAS) EL 8 distro? Is this in fact a complete distro that uses Epel and ElRepo as did SL? Does it install and boot as did SL? Supposedly, Springdale can replace SL, although unlike SL that was "supported" by professional employed

Re: scientific.org

2021-03-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:23 AM Werf, C.G. van der (Carel) <135eeb68b6b6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Seems a recurring issue ... > > > > Any reason why >

RE: scientific.org

2021-03-04 Thread Werf, C.G. van der (Carel)
arel) Sent: Thursday, 11 June, 2020 12:19 To: 'scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov' Subject: scientific.org Is there any reason why website https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scientificlinux.org_=DwIFAg=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaI

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:48 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > What we did. > We commisioned a number of new boxes to Sl 6.10. We also updated our > server over the weekend. When we found out the server could not see > other boxes on our network. We

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-12 Thread Larry Linder
Thank You for the expert analysis of the problem. One of the problems with searching the net is that most of time there is advice that is correct but out of date or wrong OS etc. and they are not clearly labeled. We have downloaded the most current copy of Sama-* and all boxes are up to date. I

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-11 Thread Mark Rousell
(I've been forced to post this via the Outlook.com web UI. It's vile. Sorry.) On 11/06/2020 15:34, Larry Linder wrote: > When I did a search on the internet for the problem. There were a > number of reports from other distributions of linux 6.10 with the same > problem. > > I tried their

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-11 Thread Larry Linder
What we did. We commisioned a number of new boxes to Sl 6.10. We also updated our server over the weekend. When we found out the server could not see other boxes on our network. We used yum to upgrade sama and smbserver and that did not fix problem. When I did a search on the internet for the

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] scientific.org

2020-06-11 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Hi Carel, Thanks for the report! We will need to look into what is going on there. This is unexpected. Pat On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 10:19 +, Werf, C.G. van der (Carel) wrote: Is there any reason why website

scientific.org

2020-06-11 Thread Werf, C.G. van der (Carel)
Is there any reason why website https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scientificlinux.org_=DwIFAg=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=zfxxlyxwKTMzHuFsAqjcjLqvtv-NB0CBLcHRNZAUi_U=C8FS3pxU3u7rrTEdxKMNz1kKPUTTOK8DBummnftsY20=