Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-15 Thread David Sommerseth
From: Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com To: scientific-linux-users SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov Sent: 14. februar 2015 08:06:02 Subject: Re: systemd (again) 3) Will systemd require Gnome 3/4/5/..N to manage properly? 4) Can systemd /var/log files (or equivalent) be logrotated? Systemd

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-15 Thread John Lauro
Cc: scientific-linux-users SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:11:52 AM Subject: Re: systemd (again) Cockpit is not running by default, but if you go to https://$IPADDRESS_OF_SERVER:9090/ systemd starts it on-the-fly (through socket activation). In the moment

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-15 Thread Steven Haigh
On 16/02/2015 2:29 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: From: John Lauro john.la...@covenanteyes.com To: David Sommerseth sl+us...@lists.topphemmelig.net Cc: scientific-linux-users SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov, kei...@kl-ic.com Sent: 15. februar 2015 14:33:25 Subject: Re: systemd (again) Sounds

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 02/15/2015 12:32 PM, Steven Haigh wrote: On 16/02/2015 5:19 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 02/15/2015 08:53 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: On 16/02/2015 2:29 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: In the end, it doesn't do anything more functional than the old init system did - just now that instead of

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-14 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Keith Lofstrom! On 2015.02.13 at 23:06:02 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote next: Well, hm. My questions about systemd (some may be hard to measure): Why hard? 1) Does systemd use a LOT more RAM, like 200MB, that cannot swap out? # ps_mem |grep systemd 516.0 KiB + 60.0 KiB = 576.0 KiB

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-13 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote: If systemd is a major resource hog, ... ... On 02/13/2015 09:06 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: The difficulty is that it's creeping into levels and components that didn't ask for it and don't need it, and thus becoming even

Re: systemd (again)

2015-02-13 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:06:02PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Well, hm. My questions about systemd (some may be hard to measure): 1) Does systemd use a LOT more RAM, like 200MB, that cannot swap out? 2) Does systemd use a LOT more CPU cycles, slowing down user performance? 3) Will