Re: cups and hylafax

2012-08-20 Thread Todd And Margo Chester
On 08/19/2012 09:03 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Todd And Margo Chester toddandma...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/19/2012 05:56 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: By the time the print job gets

SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Janne Snabb
Hello, I made some statistics and comparisons about security advisories published by three popular RHEL 6 clones: CentOS 6, Oracle Linux 6 and Scientific Linux 6. The article is available at the following URL: http://bitrate.epipe.com/rhel-vs-centos-scientific-oracle-linux-6_187 I hope you

What is the correct way to set up a dual boot system for CentOS 6.3, or SL 6.3, and Windows 7?

2012-08-20 Thread Conan Doyle
After numerous searches on how to setup CentOS 6.3 and Win7 to dual boot I turn to the readers of this forum for help... I suppose my question is quite simple: What is the correct way to set up a dual boot system for CentOS 6.3, or SL 6.3, and Windows 7? I have tried several times, with

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:02:47PM +0700, Janne Snabb wrote: http://bitrate.epipe.com/rhel-vs-centos-scientific-oracle-linux-6_187 A few comments: a) you forgot to include the SLC (CERN) distribution. This distribution is most important when dealing with hardware vendors - most vendors

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian Murray
to myself in private. Do *not* send it to this mailing list unless your message is specifically about Scientific Linux. Please do not start a Firstly, I don't really like being told where I can and can't post. If the discussion is off-topic, then so is the topic IMHO. Anyway, I don't

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Mike Zanker
On 20/08/2012 18:42, Ian Murray wrote: I am not a member of the scientific community, so I am free to choose the distribution that suits based on its merits. I do not use a clone as a bastion host for security reasons. Otherwise I choose SL based on my perception of the robustness

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread David Sommerseth
On 20/08/12 14:02, Janne Snabb wrote: Hello, I made some statistics and comparisons about security advisories published by three popular RHEL 6 clones: CentOS 6, Oracle Linux 6 and Scientific Linux 6. The article is available at the following URL:

RE: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Scott Weikart
What would be more interesting, from a statistical point of view is to take those extremes out of the comparison. A way to accomplish your objective is to calculate the median value (i.e. the middle value after sorting by delay), which is a good representation for the typical value. -scott

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/20/2012 04:59 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: b) delays in issuing bug fixes are good for you - no delay means they did not test the stuff before pushing it out. FUD - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM:

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 08/20/2012 04:59 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: b) delays in issuing bug fixes are good for you - no delay means they did not test the stuff before pushing it out. FUD - KB It´s mistaken, in general, but

Re: What is the correct way to set up a dual boot system for CentOS 6.3, or SL 6.3, and Windows 7?

2012-08-20 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Conan Doyle o...@celticblues.com wrote: After numerous searches on how to setup CentOS 6.3 and Win7 to dual boot I turn to the readers of this forum for help... I suppose my question is quite simple: What is the correct way to set up a dual boot system for

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian
On 20/08/12 22:45, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 08/20/2012 04:59 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: b) delays in issuing bug fixes are good for you - no delay means they did not test the stuff before pushing it out. FUD - KB Lol. Karanbir, how are you able to release something derived from

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/20/2012 11:38 PM, Ian wrote: b) delays in issuing bug fixes are good for you - no delay means they did not test the stuff before pushing it out. FUD Lol. Karanbir, how are you able to release something derived from Redhat, at the same time as Redhat (i.e. without a delay) and do

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian
you are over simplifying the process. Eg. What was the time lag from when the srpm was released and the rhn notes published to when CentOS released that specific update ? I seriously think this is the wrong place to discuss CentOS specifically, don't you? But, I'll humour you... if somehow,

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/21/2012 12:22 AM, Ian wrote: I seriously think this is the wrong place to discuss CentOS specifically, don't you? I dont think this is about CentOS, its more about what the overall impression being carried forward. But, I'll humour you... if somehow, Delay= CloneReleaseTime -

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 20 August 2012 17:22, Ian murra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: you are over simplifying the process. Eg. What was the time lag from when the srpm was released and the rhn notes published to when CentOS released that specific update ? I seriously think this is the wrong place to discuss CentOS

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Mr IT Guru
While the graphs are nice, and provide a visual representation of the time it takes to releasing a patch with regards to a security advisory - what real information do they tell us? Other than, some groups of 'volunteers' take longer to react to, and deliver patches than others? While I

Fwd: Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian
On 21/08/12 00:35, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 20 August 2012 17:22, Ian murra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: you are over simplifying the process. Eg. What was the time lag from when the srpm was released and the rhn notes published to when CentOS released that specific update ? I seriously think

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian
I'll assume you meant this for the list.. On 21/08/12 00:54, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ian murra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: you are over simplifying the process. Eg. What was the time lag from when the srpm was released and the rhn notes published to when CentOS

Re: SL 6 vs. other RHEL clones: security advisory comparison

2012-08-20 Thread Ian
On 21/08/12 00:27, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 08/21/2012 12:22 AM, Ian wrote: I seriously think this is the wrong place to discuss CentOS specifically, don't you? I dont think this is about CentOS, its more about what the overall impression being carried forward is. Me neither. Wires crossed