Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

I think we see two groups of people here, taking part in this "exciting" debate. One is, people who genuinely try to learn a bit about more concrete plans Fermilab have(or don't have) for the future of Scientificlinux - and they do it here on the list because they can sroogle all over the

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

Hi, anyone who wants to go with centos, is free to do so, right? So just go and do it and don't 'fuss' about it on SL mail list. We all should be grateful for continuing support of Fermilab for SL builds. -- *Karel Lang* *Unix/Linux Administration* l...@afd.cz | +420 731 13 40 40 AUFEER

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

Hi there, anyone who wants to go with centos, is free to do so, right? So just go and do it and don't 'fuss' about it on SL mail list. Thanks for the nice advice. Would you have another one too? On which list should current SL users ask/discuss about the short/long term plans regarding SL?

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

Konstantin Olchanski writes: > The installer for both have the same idiotic "you *must* create a fake > user or no login prompt for you!", If you're not making a local user, then you've probably got a network authentication scheme. In which case, you're probably deploying more than one machine.

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 07:59:43AM -0600, Alec T. Habig wrote: > Konstantin Olchanski writes: > > The installer for both have the same idiotic "you *must* create a fake > > user or no login prompt for you!", > > If you're not making a local user, then you've probably got a network >

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

There is at least one other sub group around here who value generally quiet sober support when they have a problem. Ubuntu and many other distros are quality distros, and perhaps better support what some people want. But the Ubuntu and Fedora mailing lists and support are unbelievably noisy and

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On 01/13/2016 01:30 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: and the same "you *must* use the disk partition tool designed by dummies for dummies". likewise solved by kickstart. The kickstart disk partitioning tool is even dumber than they new GUI tool, only useful for "one-size-fits-all" cases

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On 01/13/2016 02:42 PM, Graham Allan wrote: On 01/13/2016 01:30 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: and the same "you *must* use the disk partition tool designed by dummies for dummies". likewise solved by kickstart. The kickstart disk partitioning tool is even dumber than they new GUI

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:51:26AM -0600, Jim Campbell wrote: > > As I understand it, one of the key values of SL is that it allows you to > stay on a point release and obtain only security fixes for your packages > (someone else mentioned this, too). This is important when running > scientific

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

The kickstart disk partitioning tool is even dumber than they new GUI tool, only useful for "one-size-fits-all" cases where you also do not mind accidentally deleting the contents of all disks. (yes, open the machine, disconnect disks, install, reconnect disks, close the machine, thanks, but no

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

For the immediate future, we plan to continue with SL 7. When EL 8 emerges, we may need to re-evaluate the situation. That being stated, for non-CERN groups (that is, groups neither employed by CERN nor in one of the collider collaborations), is there a CERN equivalent to this SL list? What

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

If you use CERN CentOS 7 - please contact us at linux.supp...@cern.ch in case you encounter problems, if you use CentOS 7 - please use centos mailing lists... Now CERN Linux el7 comes in and I see the machines installed as 7.1 stay there, no automatic update to 7.2. Odd. Then here, I see

Re: Dell Precision T1700 default xorg.conf file needed

On 01/13/2016 07:53 AM, Mark Stodola wrote: On 01/13/2016 01:35 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: On 01/11/2016 08:52 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Mark Stodola > wrote: On 01/11/2016 09:57 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On 2016-01-14 07:45, jdow wrote: There is at least one other sub group around here who value generally quiet sober support when they have a problem. Ubuntu and many other distros are quality distros, and perhaps better support what some people want. But the Ubuntu and Fedora mailing lists and

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

Lejeczek, Iosif etc, I really dunno, what you guys wanna hear? you come and say you switch/switched to centos - and you ask for what? for blessing? :D well ... i bless you :D Now, joking aside, Fermilab said clearly they go with SL7x and they do. And while you will have supp for sl/rhel 6x

Re: Dell Precision T1700 default xorg.conf file needed

On 01/13/2016 01:35 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: On 01/11/2016 08:52 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Mark Stodola > wrote: On 01/11/2016 09:57 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: On 01/09/2016 04:37 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

Re: a year later - CERN move to Centos - what are we doing?

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016, at 05:43 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 09:48:23AM +, lejeczek wrote: > > > > I personally am just about to trial a migration from SL7 to Centos. > > I'm thinking it's inevitable, am I wrong? > > > > I tried both SL7 and CentOS7 (and I have