Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> This is where the one of the major differences between the RPM packaging and >>> the DEB packaging shows itself. Debian (and Debian-derivatives) take >>> advantage of the possibility o

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 08:05:31 PM you wrote: > You can add "%pre" and/or "%post" scripts requiring user-interaction > to an SRPM's spec file and package/repackage an RPM but it's very much > frowned upon. You won't get a "nice" debconf dialog but you can > _PROBABLY_ so the same thing. T

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Tom H wrote: >> There has been an 'upgradeany' command line option in CentOS at least for >> several cycles, but it is also not supported. It might work, but it likely >> will leave your system in a 'self-supported' state. Meaning, again, that >> when it breaks you

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:00:08 PM you wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: >>> Yes that is our support stance.  It is NOT supported by either TUV or SL . >> >> I remember that thread and Connie's response. I'm s

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, November 08, 2011 02:02:14 PM you wrote: > 2. using dd and an external USB drive enclosure that mounts an external > drive as /dev/sdX for some X, clone the drive from my wife's machine to > this drive. As I only have a USB 2 interface on the enclosure, and > neither her nor my la

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-08 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 11:02 -0800, Yasha Karant quoted lots ... Please trim or cut very long quotations and make them relevant to responses. Many thanks, Paul England EU.

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-08 Thread Yasha Karant
On 11/08/2011 08:50 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:00:08 PM you wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: Yes that is our support stance. It is NOT supported by either TUV or SL . I remember that thread and Connie's response. I'm sorry that I suggested

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:00:08 PM you wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: > > Yes that is our support stance. It is NOT supported by either TUV or SL . > I remember that thread and Connie's response. I'm sorry that I > suggested in this thread that it was OK; I was

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Christopher Tooley
Apologies if I've muddied the waters regarding this! Please do not take my word over Connie's or anyone else on the SL support staff!! -Chris

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Connie Sieh wrote: >> This was the exact procedure that I requested from the SL support staff >> -- using the bootable install DVD for SL 6 to update a SL 5 system, and >> was told that such a procedure is not recommended and is not supported >> as one of the opti

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Yasha Karant wrote: >> On 11/07/2011 09:31 AM, Christopher Tooley wrote: I have been informed that "update" will not work from EL N to EL N+1 for major releases, only for minor sub-releases (EL 6.0 to EL 6.1, e

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Christopher Tooley
On 2011-11-07, at 10:53 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: > This was the exact procedure that I requested from the SL support staff > -- using the bootable install DVD for SL 6 to update a SL 5 system, and > was told that such a procedure is not recommended and is not supported > as one of the options pr

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Connie Sieh
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Yasha Karant wrote: On 11/07/2011 09:31 AM, Christopher Tooley wrote: I have been informed that "update" will not work from EL N to EL N+1 for major releases, only for minor sub-releases (EL 6.0 to EL 6.1, etc.). They were probably thinking about the yum update procedure.

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Yasha Karant
On 11/07/2011 09:31 AM, Christopher Tooley wrote: I have been informed that "update" will not work from EL N to EL N+1 for major releases, only for minor sub-releases (EL 6.0 to EL 6.1, etc.). They were probably thinking about the yum update procedure. The DVD/CD update procedure is definitely

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-07 Thread Christopher Tooley
> I have been informed that "update" will not work from EL N to EL N+1 for > major releases, only for minor sub-releases (EL 6.0 to EL 6.1, etc.). They were probably thinking about the yum update procedure. The DVD/CD update procedure is definitely available - though perhaps not as nice as a co

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > I have been informed that "update" will not work from EL N to EL N+1 for > major releases, only for minor sub-releases (EL 6.0 to EL 6.1, etc.). Major That's odd. I've done it successfully for about at least 500 Linux servers in the last

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-06 Thread Yasha Karant
On 11/06/2011 03:17 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Rather than hijacking the thread on vlc, I am posing this as a new set of questions. My understanding of the EL upgrade process, when moving from EL N to EL N+1 (e.g. EL 5.7 to EL 6.1), there

Re: Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-06 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > Rather than hijacking the thread on vlc, I am posing this as a new set of > questions. > > My understanding of the EL upgrade process, when moving from EL N to EL N+1 > (e.g. EL 5.7 to EL 6.1), there are only two ways

Moving from EL N to EL N+1

2011-11-06 Thread Yasha Karant
Rather than hijacking the thread on vlc, I am posing this as a new set of questions. My understanding of the EL upgrade process, when moving from EL N to EL N+1 (e.g. EL 5.7 to EL 6.1), there are only two ways to protect the information on the hard drives that have "systems" direct