Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
That may be because of the tight control over the media's coverage war. This is the first war where the media hasn't really been allowed to travel to the front with the soldiers. Totally different than Viet Nam. Desert Storm was like watching a video game or movie. This one feels like we are watch

Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
Can you imagine that? "You shot my wife!" Then it turns into a free for all. I saw a clip like that on tv between two guys that was a road rage incident. The two guys got out of the car and started arguing and one of the guy's wife helped escalate the situation to the point where the guys ran for t

[scifinoir2] Heroes ratings plummet. Do you even care anymore?

2009-09-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Remember "Save the cheerleader. Save the world"? It was Heroes' first season, and and people loved it. More than 16 million of them. I was one of those people, and Heroes could do no wrong in that first season. Well, I would have liked a bit more of a battle to save New York in the finale between

[scifinoir2] WTF? David Cronenberg remaking The Fly AGAIN?

2009-09-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella
The Fly, David Cronenberg's classic 1986 sci-fi horror film, was itself a re-imagining of the original 1958 movie, and was subsequently adapted by Cronenberg himself as an opera. So imagine our surprise to hear that the Canadian director-who previously said he wouldn't be involved in any remake-is

Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

2009-09-25 Thread George Arterberry
Stop watching the MSM. Lots of other news media out there. --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Mr. Worf wrote: From: Mr. Worf Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:41 AM   That may be because of the tight control over the m

RE: [scifinoir2] WTF? David Cronenberg remaking The Fly AGAIN?

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
(one glance Heavenward before walking away...) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; ggs...@yahoo.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladv

RE: [scifinoir2] Not one thread about “ Surrogates"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
I may be wrong, Keith. It just doesn't move me to want to see it. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.n

RE: [scifinoir2] "Flash Forward" - Thoughts?

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Missed it. Friend in need at that moment. Once I'm done with my run, I'm going to chase it down online. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoog

[scifinoir2] Comic book comes to big screen in "Surrogates"

2009-09-25 Thread Kelwyn
Anybody read the Surrogates comic book series? ~rave! http://hoonaem.notlong.com Clerk hits gold with Surrogates 01:00 AM EDT on Friday, September 25, 2009 By Roger Moore The Orlando Sentinel Robert Venditti was working in a Borders bookstore when he wrote The Surrogates, now a film starring

Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
You make a good point, but remember that even Vietnam wasn't heavily covered in movies until much later. Most of the films tended to focus on the 'crazy ex-Vietnam" soldier. And again, the controversy over 'Nam was another reason it was avoided for years; hence "MASH" took place in Korea, even

Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, i just don't understand why people think carrying instruments of death into public restaurants, parks, buses, and churches is a good idea. If--God forbid--shooting were to break out around innocents I think the best thing is for people to run for cover or try to hide. At least with one g

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF? David Cronenberg remaking The Fly AGAIN?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Twenty years is too soon, and I can't think of a single reason to revisit this, especially since Cronenberg has done so many other great projects, and certainly has other great stuff in the works. That being said, though, because it is Cronenberg, i will check it out. he never fails to impre

Re: [scifinoir2] "Flash Forward" - Thoughts?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Looks like lots of folks missed it, 'cause it came on at an early hour (8 pm EST), but no posts about it yet... - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:44:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Flash F

[scifinoir2] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy'

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
[The Associated Press] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy' The Associated Press CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan authorities plan to impose fines on cable television companies that refuse to stop airing the animated television series "Family Guy." Justice Minister Ta

[scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Not at all surprised to see "Catwoman" on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? )  Also not surprised to see "Battlefield Earth" on there. I tried to watch that

[scifinoir2] Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread George Arterberry
Typical end of the world as we know it  CGI  trailer   http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/

[scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread B Smith
I watch The Day After Tomorrow all the time. I don't know whay i like that stupid movie. This one? Meh. Back to Flash Forward: I liked the effects of the Flash Forward but nothing else really engaged me except the video of the mystery man. And why did the brother's future consist of a *ahem* me

[scifinoir2] Water on the Moon may boost Nasa into 21st-century space race

2009-09-25 Thread brent wodehouse
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6848177.ece >From The Times September 25, 2009 Water on the Moon may boost Nasa into 21st-century space race Jacqui Goddard, Miami The timing could not have been better. Struggling to overcome chronic underfunding, technical problems and a

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood
I enjoyed the day after tomorrow and i like this trailer. then again, you all know i have sat through several stephen baldwin films without turning the channel (that's really just as a sacrifice to my inner curmudgeon) Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming

[scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread angelababycat
They're rebroadcasting it tonight, which is smart. Same for the next ep I believe. I really enjoyed it. The openning did remind me of Lost. And the mystery man video gave me goose pimples. Keith, recall that John Cho didn't have a flashforward at all -- the ASUMPTION made by him and his pa

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
SPOILER for "Flash Forward" Yeah, i didn't mention him specifically because I wasn't sure how many saw the show last night. I think that too. I'd think that if one were dead, the mind's attempt to jump forward into time would cause a bounceback--some kind of unpleasant feedback as it fou

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, most of the studies I've read regarding precognition say that that's not necessarily the case, that the state a mind would have to be in to receive future information would be so relaxed that very little notice or upset would be perceived by the precog. "If all the world's a stage and a

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Aubrey, I could make an equal case for that being self-abuse. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.

RE: [scifinoir2] Water on the Moon may boost Nasa into 21st-century space race

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
I can see the sales pitch now. "Thar's WATER in them-thar moon rocks!" "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brent_wodeho...@t

RE: [scifinoir2] Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Maybe he's got that same German investor deal that U__ B__l has. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.

Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree. I think that part of the thinking of the behind this is a fantasy that they will be heroes without thinking about how they could place their families and anyone else they are around in danger. Even tv shows take that time. Even with training the percentage rate of kill shots goes down con

RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Does the fact that I kinda liked "The New Guy" stand as a mark against me? Beyond that, the list looks pretty solid, though how U__ B__l barely cracked the Top Fifty with "BloodRayne" is amazing, in and of itself. That's the stuff of nightmares. And HOW did I miss Gabrielle in "Constellation"?

RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing "Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever". When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell h

RE: [scifinoir2] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy'

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Philistines. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:44:04 + Subject: [sc

RE: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, another thing in this that throws me is what I've branded "the Dirty Harry effect". Too many people out there believe that they can, in a crisis, leap right p and be the hero, killing the bad guy without blinking. I can't get it past their heads that killing is something that not everyon

RE: [scifinoir2] "Flash Forward" - Thoughts?

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
It's due to re-air tonight, same Bat-time. Hope I don't forget and automatically go to "Countdown" then. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoo

[scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread B Smith
Maybe he does. 10,000 B.C. was terrible and I'll never forgive him for G.I.N.O. (Godzilla In Name Only) Stargate, Independence Day and The Day After Tomorrow are passable entertainment as long as you don't think too hard. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Maybe he'

RE: [scifinoir2] Comic book comes to big screen in "Surrogates"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
A couple of issues only, rave. Still intending to pick up the trade. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
That was his doing, wasn't it? (where're those vomiting smileys when you need them?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dai

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread B Smith
It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent story) but everything else goes horribly wrong. I bet that someone else could make this movie with the same cast and story turn out a faily entertaining flick but the director, production designer, etc. butchered thi

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread B Smith
The saddest thing is how much time I've wasted watching movies that appear on this list. I've seen and hated a ton of these turkeys. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith" wrote: > > It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent > story) but everything else

Re: [scifinoir2] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy'

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
There is a bigger story here. Chavez shut down most of the tv and radio networks there as he tries to turn himself into Mussolini. Family Guy is just the tip of the iceberg. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Philistines. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the peopl

RE: [scifinoir2] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy'

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
Funny. I'd think that Chavez would want a populace that was smug, dumb and happy. TV, used properly, does just that. Ask any reality-TV producer. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/wat

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
You're not alone, B. I've seen about 85 of them. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Baxter
I'll agree with you there, B. Thinking about it now, the movie feels like a weak American stab at HK-type cinema. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino

Re: [scifinoir2] Venezuela to fine networks that air 'Family Guy'

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
What he got rid of was any tv or radio station that offered a level headed or opposing viewpoint. Which makes him sound like any other nutjob dictator. I don't know why god keeps making those. :) On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Funny. I'd think that Chavez would want a

[scifinoir2] "Smallville" Returns - WTF Did I Miss?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Wow, I don't think I remember all the changes in Smallville at the end of the last season. (Spoilers ahead) Jimmy Olsen dead...Lana Lang infected with Green K so that she can't be near Clark...Doomsday somehow banished (I don't know where)...Clark working with the computerized version of his f

[scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
I missed most of "Dollhouse" last year. Other sources I've read say it became a really good show. Opinions? Is it worth catching up on and watching?

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
You mean, that if someone were dead in the future they'd not be able to feel that fact now? But i thought they made it seem that their consciences literally jumped into their bodies for those 137 seconds? - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Friday, Sep

Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
And think how many times cops in real world shootouts shoot their partners, spray the majority of their bullets ineffectually. When Amadou Diallo was tragically killed by the NYC cops, one of the cops tripped and fell down, due to his own fear, anxiety, and the fact that it was at night. One of

Re: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Wow, really was that bad, huh? Can you give me a quick indication of why? I mean, i find it hard to imagine how something could be so much worse than "Bad Boys 2"... - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:33:46 PM GMT -05:00 U

Re: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US?

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
So true. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:04:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] A bullet shortage in the US? Keith, another thing in this that throws me is what I've branded "the Dirty Har

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread B Smith
Bad Boys 2 is just pure excess and can at least be appreciated for the sheer level of bayhem *heh* on the screen. Ballistic is just horrible. Watching it will make you yearn for Bay's migraine inducing, quick cutting action porn. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Wow, r

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Kelwyn
Did I miss something? I don't see "Catwoman" on this list. "Catwoman" clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with "Whiteout" (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or fai

[scifinoir2] Milwaukee Film Festival - Modus Operandi

2009-09-25 Thread Kelwyn
Went to see "Modus Operandi" tonight on the second night of the inaugural Milwaukee Film Festival. The screening was held at the Oriental Theater, the last remaining local movie emporium. The cavernous theater has been converted into a duplex, but they have retained the ornate rococo charm of t

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Mr. Worf
Too many shows to watch this season. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > I missed most of "Dollhouse" last year. Other sources I've read say it > became a really good show. > Opinions? Is it worth catching up on and watching? > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Justin Mohareb
Yep. Just like Firefly, it nearly got torpedoed by network interference, but once they got past the network mandated motorcycle chases, it got REALLY good. The last several episodes were very good. Plus, Patton Oswalt. The finale was particularly good, especially since it never even got broadca

RE: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Why is everything on Friday From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight Too many shows to watch this season.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed "Catwoman" when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I cou

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Yes indeed. My favorite new show so far is "Modern Family". That show had me rolling it was so funny! - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:52:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse"

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
The finale of last season wasn't aired in the US? Why not? I'll try to catch up on this show. It's supposed to rain--again--here in Atlanta Saturday. Maybe I'll watch online to catch up. Thanks for the recommendation. - Original Message - From: "Justin Mohareb" To: scifinoir2@yahoogr

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-25 Thread Justin Mohareb
To be honest, I still can't figure out why. Apparently it had something to do with there being X number of episodes ordered, but they produced x+1 episodes because they retooled the pilot, so Fox didn't show the last episode. Epitaph one, the final ep, was very neat, and took the show in an inter

[scifinoir2] From the "Wow" Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-25 Thread Keith Johnson
I rarely send out those "you've got to see this!" e-mails, but it applies here. Simonova is the winner of the game show "Ukraine's Got Talent" for her transcendent skills drawing images in sand. You have to see to believe her skill moving the sand over the glass. Sometimes the transitions in s