Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-09 Thread KeithBJohnson
i guess i'm thinking that one or two less than super-duper blockbusters wouldn't hurt Smith. He could have viewed Hitch as the one to do more normal box office, then gone back to the Bad Boys-summer-winter blockbuster routine he's gotten down so well. I mean, when the likes of Adam Sandler does

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-09 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Good point, but I think Perry is making movie history, by proving that you can make lots of movies with a predominantly Black audience that is not in the teen target demographics. As far as I know, less than 20% of Perry's audience is not African American. I think someone with a smaller

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-09 Thread KeithBJohnson
no, you're on base. everything you say is true, Smith just needs in my opinion to jump in a take a chance. Perry definitely brings in mostly black audiences, but Will Smith has a built in likeability factor for white audiences. again, i'm just wondering how much popularity is enough, how much

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Keith, you are assuming the US audience is intelligent and open to alternative perspectives, like yourself. I was reading an American blog for Blood+, an anime on Adult Swim, in which the US creates a global plague for which they have the cure and thus power. The blogger was shocked that a

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-08 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Your assuming that he has enough clout to survive if (in my opinion- when) they were proved right and it turned out not to be a block bluster. I think, though he might has sold out in a way, he was shrewd enough to realize that it was a battle that if he won, would do him harm. American

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-08 Thread KeithBJohnson
i think that when the like of Tyler Perry can do fifty million in less than two weeks, Will Smith would have been a success with Hitch. he still would have drawn in a lot of whites, and blacks would have seen it too. It may have only made one hundred million instead of, say one hundred

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-07 Thread Martin
And they ask me why I left the Church...maybe they'll come to the realization that this isn't the 14th Century anymore, too. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably saw this, but just incase I thought I would post this text from wikipedia

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-07 Thread KeithBJohnson
yeah, i'd read that. That's one of the strangest ironies: that the film actually pulling back from the more overt anti-religious themes of the books angers some Christians, becuase they fear that makes it a stealth film, harmless in and of itself, but then leading kids to the heathen books.

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-02 Thread Martin
I was ther elast month, Keith. All they had on hand was The Courts of Chaos, and it was too decrepit for me to risk money on it. They claimed to have the omnibus on the shelf with the oversized books, but I never found it.. I have to go out to pick up my meds on Tuesday, so I'll take another

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-01 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You probably saw this, but just incase I thought I would post this text from wikipedia Controversies Several key themes of the novels, the rejection of organized religion and the abuse of power in a fictionalized Catholic Church, are to be diluted in the adaptation. Director Weitz said

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-01 Thread Martin
I've got half the Amber series, had Lord of Light until I lost it in that fire back in '95 and have yet to replace it. One day... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever read the Amber series or Lord of Light? Really great stuff. -- Original message -- From: Martin THere's

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-12-01 Thread KeithBJohnson
The first Amber series is still one of the best fantasy works I've ever read. The second series--which deals with Corwin's son Merlin--was ultimately disappointing overall. Lord of Light: the more I think of it, the more i need to get it out and read it again. Try a bookstore like The Book

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-29 Thread Martin
THere's another batch I need to weigh into, Knight of the Word. Back when I worked, I just bought books like crazy, and have yet to get around to reading a lot of them. Those are parked on my bookcase on my left right now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let me know what you think. i'm about to dive

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
Ever read the Amber series or Lord of Light? Really great stuff. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] THere's another batch I need to weigh into, Knight of the Word. Back when I worked, I just bought books like crazy, and have yet to get around to

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-26 Thread Martin
I bought the first two when they came out, and I just dug them out for reading. (Never did read them- back when I worked steadily, I bought books right and left, and never had the chance to read them, because I worked steadily.) First few pages come across as though written for young adults. I

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-26 Thread Amy Harlib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have copies but have not yet read the books. I did meet Mr. Pullman at an author event and he's a very pleasant and dynamic guy and the excerpt he read was excellent. I am very eager to see this film. Cheers! Amy I'm actually looking forward to seeing this film. I know

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
let me know what you think. i'm about to dive into another Raymond Feist novel. I really enjoyed the Riftwar books (someone in this group suggested them, in fact), and i've been reading his stuff since. Over the winter I may pull out the George RR Martin books i have (three of them) and read

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See The Golden Compass?

2007-11-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
so he's not an anger, cynical, arrogant, dismissive, contemptuous atheist? Not that all are, by any means, but i've certainly been accosted by unyielding atheists at least as obnoxious as religious fanatics. I think it's a reaction to years of feeling attacked by proselytizers --