Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2016-01-09 at 14:09 +0100, Dirk Bächle wrote: > […] > I would also like to make us a clear statement first, about what we > want to change/migrate and why we want to do it. I'm currently  > trying to find examples of large open-source projects (not some small > repos, maintained by a

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Sanjeev, You may need build-essentials to run some of the tests. Pretty sure many tests will fail/pass if there's no c/c++ compiler. You can try: python runtest.py -a -Bill On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Bill

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread William Blevins
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Russel Winder wrote: > On Sat, 2016-01-09 at 14:09 +0100, Dirk Bächle wrote: > > > […] > > I would also like to make us a clear statement first, about what we > > want to change/migrate and why we want to do it. I'm currently > > trying to

[Scons-dev] rcs and svn

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
Are all the tests for rcs and svn type things still appropriate for SCons? -- Russel. = Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp:

[Scons-dev] Tests and assert

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
Many of the SCons tests are a bit of a mess in one respect: unittest is being used as a framework but many of the tests use the python assert statement. Surely if using unittest the unittest test methods should be used, and if the Python assert statement is to be used then PyTest should be used

[Scons-dev] SCons tests and Java

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
From what I can see there are SCons tests that only run for Java 7 and earlier. These versions of Java are officially dead. OK so there is a lot of Java 7 in production, and indeed some Java 6. However if the tests should be applicable to Java 8 and Java 9 they need updating. -- Russel.

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tests and Java

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, Do they need changes beyond not running if the version doesn't match? (As our resident Java guru.. :) -Bill On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > From what I can see there are SCons tests that only run for Java 7 and > earlier. These versions of

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Dirk Bächle wrote: > On 09.01.2016 20:47, Bill Deegan wrote: > >> Dirk, >> >> For me, its "pain in having to remember how to do things in mercurial >> which I only use for scons" each time I go to work on it I >> have to refresh my mental cache.

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
1179 tests NO RESULT from 231 echo $? 2 -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Bill Deegan > wrote: > >> You may need

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Gary, On 10.01.2016 16:05, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Dirk Bächle > wrote: On 09.01.2016 20:47, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, For me, its "pain in having to remember how to do things in mercurial which

[Scons-dev] SCons developer DVCS survey

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
All, Please take a minute and fill out this survey. http://goo.gl/forms/0rLfb4M57t We've heard from a few folks who have strong opinions. I'm wondering if a simple survey will yield more broad opinion. Note I've note required login as I know some folks hate that, so it's honor system that you

Re: [Scons-dev] That was easy…

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 16:00 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: > If we change to suggesting pip/easy_install to be the preferred > method of > installing, then we can include any other packages we need and not > have to > "Vendorize" them. Or for real operating system distributions with package

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Saša Janiška
On Ned, 2016-01-10 at 10:05 -0500, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > So would switching lead to more commits and bugfixes? I can't say for > sure but from what I've seen in hiring developers, almost everyone > knows git and puts it on their resume, and I only rarely see hg > experience. So it _might_

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tests and Java

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 07:05 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: > Russel, > > Do they need changes beyond not running if the version doesn't match? > (As our resident Java guru.. :) :-) The issue is whether they are tests for JDK < 8 features or the author was just a bit short-sighted regarding the tests

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
can you pastbin the output from runtest? Installing a few more packages may cause less of them to get skipped.. -Bill On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > 1179 tests > NO RESULT from 231 > > echo $? > 2 > > > -- > Sanjeev Gupta > +65 98551208

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Jason Kenny
If this is about using git. I see two options with the least amount of work. 1) User uses a git-hg plug-in to checkout with git. or 2) Move the code in SCons to git in bitbucket. I don’t think we have a reason to do a major move to another site, when the current one works great with git as

Re: [Scons-dev] Trial SCons migration to git on github

2016-01-10 Thread Russel Winder
On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 17:54 +0100, Saša Janiška wrote: > […] > Correct - nothing close to BB/GH, only http://chiselapp.com/. > The big up-side of Fossil is that the wiki and issue tracker are part of the repository. The downside is lack of traction in the "market". -- Russel.

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
zero skipped is probably unrealistic (or impossible.. I think some may only run on windows) But minimizing the skipped is the goal. Especially if installing the required tools is fairly easy. It would be great if you captured the list of packages you installed to enable. Then I can update the

Re: [Scons-dev] rcs and svn

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Are you talking about tests for env.RCS() ? On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > Are all the tests for rcs and svn type things still appropriate for > SCons? > > -- > Russel. > >

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Bill Deegan wrote: > Installing a few more packages may cause less of them to get skipped.. > After installing: texlive-binaries python-dev gdc gcj-5-jdk I get: http://pastebin.com/xuuFwdTw -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons developer DVCS survey

2016-01-10 Thread anatoly techtonik
I am 1 of 2 people out of 11 who still prefer Mercurial. OMG. =) I wonder why Mercurial is considered bad. Is it just a poor user experience with BitBucket or there is something more in it? On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Bill Deegan wrote: > All, > > Please take a

Re: [Scons-dev] That was easy…

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Russel, On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 16:00 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: > > If we change to suggesting pip/easy_install to be the preferred > > method of > > installing, then we can include any other packages we need and not >

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Bill Deegan
Try adding: gettext-base to resolve the skipped gettext tests rpm to resolve skipped rpm tests flex to resolve lex.. I think that's all the ones I'm sure of. Dirk - Sugguestions on how to get the TEX and DocBook ones running? On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Sanjeev Gupta

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi there, On 10.01.2016 20:47, Bill Deegan wrote: Try adding: gettext-base to resolve the skipped gettext tests rpm to resolve skipped rpm tests flex to resolve lex.. I think that's all the ones I'm sure of. Dirk - Sugguestions on how to get the TEX and DocBook ones running? looks like

Re: [Scons-dev] Ubuntu buildbot available

2016-01-10 Thread William Blevins
There is some additional information here. Prefer libxml2/libxslt because lxml doesn't generate the same namespace markings. https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/DocbookTool https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/DeveloperGuide/Documentation V/R, William On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Dirk