Re: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-18 Thread Jack Campin
Standard notation practice (not folk musicians notation practice) would be to write an E Dorian tune with the E minor/G major key signature of one sharp (F#) and then sharp the individual Cs in the tune. It needs to be explained to a classical musician that in traditional music it's a common

Re: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-18 Thread Danmozell
The distinction you're describing only applies to classical music from a very short period, roughly 1750-1880. What about 1880 to 2003? http://www.danmozell.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to:

[scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-17 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Philip Whittaker wrote: A double bass player...complained that it was in two sharps but was in E minor. My explanation that it was a dorian not an aeolian tune...was greeted with some derision. OK, if modes do not mean anything to you how do you explain this one? That's a case where a music

Re: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-17 Thread Manuel Waldesco
That's a case where a music education was a hindrance rather than an advantage. Had the bassist learned the tune aurally it would not have occurred to him to question whether it was in a minor key or dorian; it should just have sounded right. If it didn't, the further education he'd need

[scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-17 Thread Danmozell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously) Date: 07/17/03 09:30 Philip Whittaker wrote: A double bass player...complained that it was in two sharps but was in E minor. My explanation that it was a dorian not an aeolian tune

[scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-15 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Jim Dawson wrote: ...I do not see any real information regarding modes coming out in this discussion, plenty of show boating about how much music history they know and nothing about how to use modes in real life music. In my humble opinion, you do not need to know anything about modes in

[scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-15 Thread Nigel Gatherer
Toby Rider wrote: ...Obviously there are some genuine talents sandwiched between the Christina Aguilera [Snip] I thought her last single was good. The one where she has a terrible wind problem in a phone booth. And in another recent song (Dirty) she wore a lovely kilt, although I couldn't

Re: [scots-l] Re: Modal Tunes (but seriously)

2003-07-15 Thread Toby Rider
Nigel Gatherer wrote: Toby Rider wrote: ...Obviously there are some genuine talents sandwiched between the Christina Aguilera [Snip] I thought her last single was good. The one where she has a terrible wind problem in a phone booth. And in another recent song (Dirty) she wore a lovely kilt,