Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Rob MacKillop
Thanks for clearing up the Dall's. I read Johnson's comments a few years back, but must have forgotten it. Rob Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-18 Thread Rob MacKillop
Hmmm. I'd just started plans for an expedition to find the fabled Third Tonic The first being whisky, the second Irn Bru, - the third? Rob Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Clarsaich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First "Rory Dall" is said to mean "Blind Rory", and was a generic term for a blind Harper and doesn't point to anyone in particular. For the harpers I know (including folks like Alison Bill), we recognize two Rory Dall's: The Irish one (O'Cathain) and the Scottish

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Bruce Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First "Rory Dall" is said to mean "Blind Rory", and was a generic term for a blind Harper and doesn't point to anyone in particular. For the harpers I know (including folks like Alison Bill), we recognize two Rory Dall's: The Irish

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Rob MacKillop
Attributed to him while in Scotland are- Da Mihi Manum, I am sure you must know, but I mention it just in case you don't, Da Mihi Manum appears in both the Wemyss c.1640 and Balcarres c.1695 manuscripts. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robmackillop,com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Bruce Olson
Rob MacKillop wrote: Attributed to him while in Scotland are- Da Mihi Manum, I am sure you must know, but I mention it just in case you don't, Da Mihi Manum appears in both the Wemyss c.1640 and Balcarres c.1695 manuscripts. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robmackillop,com Thanks

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-18 Thread Bruce Olson
Bruce Olson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/16/00 5:22:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I shall also play the original version of Ae Fond Kiss which James Oswald wrote and described as being written by Rorie Dall Rorie Dall, as

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-17 Thread Rob MacKillop
The Straloch version and Oswald version are two entirely different pieces with no connection whatsoever. I recorded the Straloch ports - 5 of them - on 'Flowers of the Forest'. Oswald must have heard of an old piece, thought lost, and tried to summon it out of the 'air', so to speak. For a harp

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

2000-12-17 Thread Bruce Olson
Rob MacKillop wrote: The Straloch version and Oswald version are two entirely different pieces with no connection whatsoever. I recorded the Straloch ports - 5 of them - on 'Flowers of the Forest'. Oswald must have heard of an old piece, thought lost, and tried to summon it out of the

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-16 Thread David Kilpatrick
on 16/12/2000 9:30 am, Rob MacKillop at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shall also play the original version of Ae Fond Kiss which James Oswald wrote and described as being written by Rorie Dall, just as he claimed other of compositions as being by Rizio - which gave an air of antiquity to his

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-16 Thread Rob MacKillop
Rob, you must ask the entire scots-l to append their signatures and large cash contributions to your campaign to erect a suitable memorial to Mr Oswald in Craill. After your lecture when you described how he came from this picturesque little fishing village, we had to go, even though it did

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Derek Hoy
Rob wrote: ... But this opens up the debate about CDs or MP3 files for download - a bit off topic for this list. Making a CD is fairly easy. Distributing it is much harder. Yes, this is definitely off topic. Maybe we should discuss it privately, David? It's quite hard to get off-topic on

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Clarsaich
I was at the Library of Congress yesterday searching for song histories. I found a book of reproductions of autograph manuscripts. Just letters, inscriptions, notes, things like that, from people like the Venerable Bede, John Locke, Geoffrey Chaucer, and so on. The contents were completely off

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Bruce Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at the Library of Congress yesterday searching for song histories. I found a book of reproductions of autograph manuscripts. Just letters, inscriptions, notes, things like that, from people like the Venerable Bede, John Locke, Geoffrey Chaucer, and so on. The

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Clarsaich
Hi Rob, Well, I didn't think I was uncovering anything dark and secret: I had heard of the quote, but never was CONVINCED it was real, and I don't think I've ever actually heard it in it's entirety before. But seeing it in the Bard's own hand! That was a thrill! And now I KNOW what he said,

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Rob MacKillop
Set the early Auld Lang Syne tune/s into steel string DADGAD or Open G, or standard, or (see below) DADFAD and do some recordings on the everyday instrument. Then you can disseminate the earlier tunes in an accessible form to vernacular musicians. Funny you should mention that, as I have

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread David Kilpatrick
on 15/12/2000 5:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob, Well, I didn't think I was uncovering anything dark and secret: I had heard of the quote, but never was CONVINCED it was real, and I don't think I've ever actually heard it in it's entirety before. But seeing it in

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Bruce Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . And the letter was about Auld Lang Syne! Just days before he died, Burns wrote to George Thomson, "One Song more, I have done. - Auld lang syne - The air is but mediocre; but the following song, the old Song of the olden times, which has never been in

[scots-l] auld sang line

2000-12-15 Thread Rob MacKillop
Rob, the offer remains open! The big moosic room, VS-880, two decent AKG condensor mikes and a seat - just come here, sit down, and we can produce every bit as accurate a sound as you'll get from the best studio (seriously). Pity it's a lang lang way from the Tay. Sometime. A new CD is