Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-17 Thread Ben Thorp
Care to offer a ranking of distros, according to user/newbie friendliness? Based on reviews, and some (but not all) personal experience, I would like to suggest some of the following distros: - Xandros: looks like they've done a lot to make a solid, dependable, Debian-based distro, with

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread John Hallam
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, TC wrote: Actually, I overstate my han'lessness. I know more about this stuff than your average Joe in the street. And the fact that *I* can't do something as simple as this surely proves that Linux is still *miles* away from Windows in usability for the common man.

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread TC
... Linux is still *miles* away from Windows in usability for the common man. *Miles*. True. On Windows, you'd just wipe the disk and do a clean re-install and then it would all work fine... Often true. And the fact that Windows is still more usable, *despite* that problem, merely proves

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread TC
... rpmfind.net has hits for both apt and yum, including the below link for apt Thanks. ... Are you talking miles away when RH9 was new, or still miles away now that it has been superceded by Fedora? The former. I'm going to take a fresh copy of Fedora and see how that performs. I don't

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread iain d broadfoot
* TC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But it is pish awful - *so* pish awful as to overwhelm those undoubted advantages - when it comes to the average desktop user's needs. ummm. average desktop users need their OS to not crash every day. iain -- If sharing a thing in no

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread TC
ummm. average desktop users need their OS to not crash every day. iain Sheesh, it really is like a religion, isn't it? This sort of statement shows that it's not just The Evil Empire that uses fear, uncertainty and dread. Windows doesn't crash every day. 98, didn't. 2K certainly doesn't.

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread TC
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 00:30, Charles McCrimmon wrote: anyway, i was just mailing to say i think this is nutz havin a public argument/discussion about windows Vs Linux on a Lug mailing list utterly nutz :D a. It stemmed from a discussion about RPMs on Linux b. It's still about Linux (albeit

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread TC
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 00:30, Charles McCrimmon wrote: anyway, i was just mailing to say i think this is nutz havin a public argument/discussion about windows Vs Linux on a Lug mailing list utterly nutz :D a. It stemmed from a discussion about RPMs on Linux b. It's still about Linux (albeit

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-16 Thread Charles McCrimmon
Ive been following the thread, i made sure i read it right from the start before replying. i didnt add any fuel, just pointing out it was a useless argument thats probably appeared on this mailing list a few times and never ever ends well, no matter what the original subject was about, and i did

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-15 Thread Paul Millar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 12 June 2004 00:24, TC wrote: So, original up2date is broken. Updating the broken up2date runs into the very problem that up2date is meant to solve. And then finally, an updated up2date can't get me through a basic up2date run without

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-15 Thread TC
If you want something that automatically resolves dependency problems, you want either apt or yum. And, at the risk of repeating the whole sorry tale, how would I get hold of RPMs for apt or yum (given that I'm on RH 9.0)? (FWIW, I *part* solved my multisync problem by downloading the

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-11 Thread Ben Thorp
If you are using Mandrake, usr URPMI, it will sort the deps for you Most RPM-based distributions now have some sort of automatic dependency-resolving system. IIRC Fedora uses up2date, Mandrake uses urpmi, and some use apt-rpm Dependency resolution may have been an issue for convertees a

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-11 Thread TC
Most RPM-based distributions now have some sort of automatic dependency-resolving system. IIRC Fedora uses up2date, Mandrake uses urpmi, and some use apt-rpm Ah, OK. Cool. So I'm using Redhat, in which case it mut be up2date. First problem with that is that I hit what appears to be a

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Millar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 June 2004 10:14, TC wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads]# rpm -Fvh up2date-3.1.23.2-1.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: up2date = 3.1.23 is needed by (installed) up2date-gnome-3.1.23-1 up2date-gnome is the graphical

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-11 Thread Phil Deane
On Friday 11 Jun 2004 10:14, TC wrote: Most RPM-based distributions now have some sort of automatic dependency-resolving system. IIRC Fedora uses up2date, Mandrake uses urpmi, and some use apt-rpm Ah, OK. Cool. So I'm using Redhat, in which case it mut be up2date. First problem with that

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-11 Thread TC
... fedora-legacy ... That fixed it, thanks. I found the required new version of up2date there. I've now installed it and it runs OK, until it itself reports dependency problems in the very list of RPMs it generates. So, original up2date is broken. Updating the broken up2date runs into the

Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?

2004-06-10 Thread Phil Deane
On Friday 11 Jun 2004 00:09, TC wrote: I'm trying to get multisync (http://www.multisync.org/) and synce (http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/) going, to connect my WinCE PDA to my linux box. As part of the messing-about I've tried to install the multisync-evolution plugin, but I'm getting the