Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/3/07, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just an FYI, OpenEJB is extremely non-intrusive and it's very easy to use as "just a library" in various ways. I hadn't really thought of that, I know Noel had mentioned OpenEJB, but I couldn't figure out why, and I used it years ago so I sho

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread David Blevins
On May 2, 2007, at 10:29 PM, David Blevins wrote: On May 2, 2007, at 3:36 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: [..] Conceptually, JAMES is made up of the following pieces: - Wire level protocol handlers, which break down into: - Incoming Message Acceptors (e.g., SMT

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread David Blevins
On May 2, 2007, at 3:36 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: [..] Conceptually, JAMES is made up of the following pieces: - Wire level protocol handlers, which break down into: - Incoming Message Acceptors (e.g., SMTP) - Incoming Message Providers (e.g., POP3)

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Danny Angus ha scritto: >> I prefer to >> not require a full J2EE stack for running it. If we build upon JCR and >> JMS we already provide lots of options for deployment. Btw it seems you >> switch deployment options too fast ;-) .. yesterday (some months ago) >> everyone was for OSGi... I don't re

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Danny Angus
I prefer to not require a full J2EE stack for running it. If we build upon JCR and JMS we already provide lots of options for deployment. Btw it seems you switch deployment options too fast ;-) .. yesterday (some months ago) everyone was for OSGi... I don't read OSGi in this mail... I don't thi

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
+1 Vincenzo Noel J. Bergman wrote: Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data store. The proof of concept will start by focusing on the modelling of the data in JCR, and will build from the J

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Danny Angus
+1 On 5/2/07, Norman Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefano Bagnara schrieb: > Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > >> Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help >> work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data >> store. The proof of concept

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Norman Maurer
Stefano Bagnara schrieb: > Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > >> Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help >> work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data >> store. The proof of concept will start by focusing on the modelling of the >> data

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > JMX, and I agree that we as long as we're going to do this uplift, we should > make sure that we provide appropriate JMX support. And see also JSR-138. Can you elaborate on JSR-138 ? I never heard of it, and from a fast google search I only found Oracle had an implem

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > Sorry for posting this to dev@ instead of the PMC list. And I should have > also noted it as a vote (although the Karma reference probably made it > clear). > > --- Noel Don't worry. I have no problems with public votes, and you already collected 4 +1, so, eve

RE: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Bernd Fondermann wrote: > other important parts are > - User DB Subsumed by "data store", at least for the moment. > - Server Management JMX, and I agree that we as long as we're going to do this uplift, we should make sure that we provide appropriate JMX support. And see also JSR-138. > - Me

RE: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > About JCR being the abstraction "period", I would say.. "maybe comma" > ;-) Let's see it working before placing periods. You must have missed the *IF* earlier in the paragraph. :-) > So you revamped JMS, too ;-) For a specific purpose, not for the internal implementati

RE: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sorry for posting this to dev@ instead of the PMC list. And I should have also noted it as a vote (although the Karma reference probably made it clear). --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addition

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann ha scritto: > From my experience EJB incl. MDB does _not_ open options for > deplyoment, they _narrow_ them. > You would need an EJB container, and add much more footprint by the > way than by adding a JMS implementation. > > There are so many lightweight and more flexible compone

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On 5/2/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So we're talking about a major technology uplift for JAMES. One piece being talked about is the replacement of our data store with JCR. There are others ... Conceptually, JAMES is made up of the following pieces: - Wire level protocol ha

Re: JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > [..] > Conceptually, JAMES is made up of the following pieces: > > - Wire level protocol handlers, which break down into: > - Incoming Message Acceptors (e.g., SMTP) > - Incoming Message Providers (e.g., POP3) > - Outgoing Message Delivery (e.g., RemoteD

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/2/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data store. The proof of concept will start by focusing on the modelling of the data in JCR, and will

JAMES technology uplift

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
So we're talking about a major technology uplift for JAMES. One piece being talked about is the replacement of our data store with JCR. There are others ... Conceptually, JAMES is made up of the following pieces: - Wire level protocol handlers, which break down into: - Incoming Message Ac

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Søren Hilmer
+1 -- Søren Hilmer, M.Sc., M.Crypt. wideTrailPhone: +45 25481225 Pilevænget 41Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DK-8961 Allingåbro Web: www.widetrail.dk On Wed, May 2, 2007 11:23, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help > work

Re: Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help > work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data > store. The proof of concept will start by focusing on the modelling of the > data in JCR, and will build from the JCR

Jukka Zitting Committer Karma

2007-05-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jukka Zitting, JackRabbit Committer & PMC Chair, has volunteered to help work on a Proof of Concept related to the use of JCR as our unified data store. The proof of concept will start by focusing on the modelling of the data in JCR, and will build from the JCR side out, not start with existing JA

JAMES Server Nightly Build Report

2007-05-02 Thread JAMES Nightly Build System
Updating From Source Control At revision 534336. Do a Clean Build with Unit Tests and Distri